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#2341 Postby HurricaneBrain » Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:47 am

GFS on Saturday:
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2342 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:54 am

Longtracker by GFS

12z GFS continues to show a CV longtracker that forms from one of the waves that are still inside Africa.

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2343 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:36 pm

The 12z ECMWF has a wave developing,but the timeframe suggests is another one as by 192 hours,GFS has the longtracker north of PR.

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#2344 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:18 pm

Keep them model plots coming....good stuff! :)
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#2345 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:23 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Keem them model plots coming....good stuff! :)


When the Euro speaks,you have to pay close attention :) And if you have that and GFS,it means the best consensus you can have between the top two models.
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#2346 Postby ConvergenceZone » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:42 pm

cycloneye wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:Keem them model plots coming....good stuff! :)


When the Euro speaks,you have to pay close attention :) And if you have that and GFS,it means the best consensus you can have between the top two models.



It just seems like everything that's been coming off the coast has been fizzling so quick!
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#2347 Postby HurricaneMaster_PR » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:42 pm

cycloneye wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:Keem them model plots coming....good stuff! :)


When the Euro speaks,you have to pay close attention :) And if you have that and GFS,it means the best consensus you can have between the top two models.


The ECMWF was very good with Emily. So lets pay close attention to this models as the Cape Verde Season is getting ready to begin!
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#2348 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:49 pm

both ECm/GFS show a upper high to the north of this system which moves west as well...

My gut would be saying this could be a player but we'll need to see how it handles coming offland...

GFS much faster with this system as well...
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2349 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:21 pm

Another run (18Z) by GFS showing CV development. It starts at 36 hours.

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2350 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:57 pm

18z GFS run on a recurve track between the East Coast of U.S and Bermuda.

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#2351 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:00 pm

Don't think thats the system Cycloneye, the system buries itself into Caribbean after decaying, If you track the Vort its quite obvious the system hits CA in the end.
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#2352 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 05, 2011 6:22 pm

KWT wrote:Don't think thats the system Cycloneye, the system buries itself into Caribbean after decaying, If you track the Vort its quite obvious the system hits CA in the end.


I guess we have to wait another day or two to see a more clear picture about which wave is what the models are latching on. :)
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#2353 Postby Rgv20 » Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:35 pm

Very interesting cycloneye, that the GFS has been persistent on developing a system starting this Sunday..I guess we are going to find out soon if the GFS solution is going to verify.

The Euro has been really consisting on showing CV development starting late next week until the weekend. When the Euro starts been persisting its hard to ignore even though its 7 to 9 days out.


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12zECMWF forecast 850mb vorticity valid for Saturday (Aug13). Development looks to be around 15n and 36w (Per Accuweather Pro)
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2354 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:35 pm

at 15N that would be a classic recurve TC....
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#2355 Postby somethingfunny » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:37 pm

I have a very tough time buying the GFS solution of a storm developing east of the Cape Verde Islands around 12-13N and making it all the way across to Puerto Rico.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2356 Postby SFLcane » Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:56 pm

ROCK wrote:at 15N that would be a classic recurve TC....


At 15 north it doesn't have much chance getting through the east coast trough.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2357 Postby lebron23 » Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:20 am

If development does pick up...i think it will start really ramping up by august 20th...
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#2358 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:22 am

Current pattern means its going to be very very difficult to get a US landfall, probably the best way is a weak system makes it to neasr the Bahamas and explodes just at the same time as some brief ridging comes in, but the pattern is TROUGHY in a big way, just loike last yeaer, in fact almost a clone of last year.
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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2359 Postby ronjon » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:45 am

It's fantasy land but 06z GFS shows a big ramp up in activity the next 2 weeks. BTW, the GOM storm is the one supposed to come off Africa in the next few days.

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Re: Global Model Runs Discussion

#2360 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:52 am

I would like to see a bit more enthusiasm by ECMWF before I start to believe entirely what GFS has been showing for the past two days of consecutive runs.But as I said before,there is no doubt that the models are sniffing the start of the CV season in earnest.
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