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#7321 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:48 pm

HurrMark wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:I"m really getting confused with these comments. 2 hours ago all I heard was how Irene was making a run at intensification, some even used the term, "bombing". Now all I'm hearing is that it's struggling with dry air and might be a Cat 2.... so which one is it people??? It can't be both.....


Its pressure is dropping, for sure, but that has not yet translated to stronger winds near the surface. Not saying it can't, but recon hasn't found anything that would confirm stronger winds.


But if the pressure is dropping, why would the winds be weakening?? I could understand the winds being the same, but not weakening....
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#7322 Postby weatherSnoop » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:49 pm

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#7323 Postby Dave » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:49 pm

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000
UZNT13 KWBC 260227
XXAA 76028 99272 70780 08078 99982 27224 30060 00660 ///// /////
92530 23208 31078 85267 20418 32079 88999 77999
31313 09608 80212
51515 10167 07775
61616 NOAA2 2309A IRENE OB 37
62626 REL 2719N07804W 021212 SPG 2714N07797W 021538 WL150 29560 0
85 DLM WND 31074 981753 MBL WND 30070=

XXBB 76028 99272 70780 08078 00982 27224 11969 26216 22946 24208
33911 22408 44899 21806 55863 20410 66845 20621 77811 18608 88752
16821
21212 00982 30060 11966 29059 22952 30078 33947 30575 44943 30580
55937 30582 66931 31077 77922 31581 88911 31579 99906 31582 11865
32085 22752 30567
31313 09608 80212
51515 10167 07775
61616 NOAA2 2309A IRENE OB 37
62626 REL 2719N07804W 021212 SPG 2714N07797W 021538 WL150 29560 0
85 DLM WND 31074 981753 MBL WND 30070=


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UZNT13 KWBC 260222
XXAA 76029 99277 70775 08077 99951 26809 27581 00951 ///// /////
92242 25605 29094 85988 23211 88999 77999
31313 09608 80201
51515 10167 07775
61616 NOAA2 2309A IRENE OB 35
62626 REL 2765N07752W 020135 SPG 2762N07745W 020431 WL150 29091 0
85 DLM WND 30084 950752 MBL WND 29090 EYEWALL 225=

XXBB 76028 99277 70775 08077 00951 26809 11939 26007 22922 25405
33883 24409 44/// ///// 55852 23211 66845 22812 77752 19409
21212 00951 27581 11942 29596 22939 29092 33752 31084
31313 09608 80201
51515 10167 07775
61616 NOAA2 2309A IRENE OB 35
62626 REL 2765N07752W 020135 SPG 2762N07745W 020431 WL150 29091 0
85 DLM WND 30084 950752 MBL WND 29090 EYEWALL 225=
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#7324 Postby maxintensity » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:49 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:I"m really getting confused with these comments. 2 hours ago all I heard was how Irene was making a run at intensification, some even used the term, "bombing". Now all I'm hearing is that it's struggling with dry air and might be a Cat 2.... so which one is it people??? It can't be both.....

It is strengthening significantly in my opinion and i dont care what the winds are. They WILL follow a massive drop in pressure by surging higher. This does not have cocentric eyewalls and it its winds will respond quite well within 6 hours IMO
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#7325 Postby vacanechaser » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:50 pm

HurrMark wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:I"m really getting confused with these comments. 2 hours ago all I heard was how Irene was making a run at intensification, some even used the term, "bombing". Now all I'm hearing is that it's struggling with dry air and might be a Cat 2.... so which one is it people??? It can't be both.....


Its pressure is dropping, for sure, but that has not yet translated to stronger winds near the surface. Not saying it can't, but recon hasn't found anything that would confirm stronger winds.



we had this same discussion the other day when it happened... it seems to have a lag time between that much of a drop and the winds coming up... they will increase.. it may not happen until 2am.. or even 5am.. but it will happen with that pressure drop..


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#7326 Postby Meteorcane » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:50 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
HurrMark wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:I"m really getting confused with these comments. 2 hours ago all I heard was how Irene was making a run at intensification, some even used the term, "bombing". Now all I'm hearing is that it's struggling with dry air and might be a Cat 2.... so which one is it people??? It can't be both.....


Its pressure is dropping, for sure, but that has not yet translated to stronger winds near the surface. Not saying it can't, but recon hasn't found anything that would confirm stronger winds.


But if the pressure is dropping, why would the winds be weakening?? I could understand the winds being the same, but not weakening....


The winds really are not weakening per say, it was probably only a Cat.3 in terms of winds for a brief period > 24 hours ago,
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#7327 Postby Dave » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:51 pm

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#7328 Postby funster » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:51 pm

If the pressure is getting lower than the storm is getting stronger, i think. The energy is somewhere other than the winds at the core. Probably being used to be by Irene to spread out its huge windfield and generate really big beach house crushing waves, unfortunately.
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#7329 Postby jeff » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:53 pm

vacanechaser wrote:
HurrMark wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:I"m really getting confused with these comments. 2 hours ago all I heard was how Irene was making a run at intensification, some even used the term, "bombing". Now all I'm hearing is that it's struggling with dry air and might be a Cat 2.... so which one is it people??? It can't be both.....


Its pressure is dropping, for sure, but that has not yet translated to stronger winds near the surface. Not saying it can't, but recon hasn't found anything that would confirm stronger winds.



we had this same discussion the other day when it happened... it seems to have a lag time between that much of a drop and the winds coming up... they will increase.. it may not happen until 2am.. or even 5am.. but it will happen with that pressure drop..


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Irene is a very large hurricane and large hurricanes typically do not go through large intensity changes very quickly. If it is a strong cat 2 or weak cat 3, the damage is going to be roughly the same more due to its size and duration of impacts. For those in the NE I would not take a weak cat 1 or strong TS lightly given the size of this system.
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#7330 Postby Chacor » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:54 pm

maxintensity wrote:
ConvergenceZone wrote:I"m really getting confused with these comments. 2 hours ago all I heard was how Irene was making a run at intensification, some even used the term, "bombing". Now all I'm hearing is that it's struggling with dry air and might be a Cat 2.... so which one is it people??? It can't be both.....

It is strengthening significantly in my opinion and i dont care what the winds are. They WILL follow a massive drop in pressure by surging higher. This does not have cocentric eyewalls and it its winds will respond quite well within 6 hours IMO


Well, what people tend to forget is that although the SSHWS goes by wind, traditionally peak intensity of storms has been measured by its minimum pressure. So certainly, although winds are not increasing, one could say this storm is indeed "strengthening significantly".
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#7331 Postby psyclone » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:54 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:I agree this is only a Cat 2 right now.



If it is only a cat 2, that means it will probably landfall at NC as a Cat 1 and then hopefully just a tropical storm by the time it landfalls the 2nd time....

I think the large size, rather than the absolute peak intensity is what really matters here. with a pressure under 950mb you either have extremely high winds (ala charley) or a huge windfield. we have the latter. either one is extremely dangerous. if charley was a weed wacker then Irene is a brush hog. this is gonna hurt bad and is destined to impact an astonishing number of people, many of whom aren't hurricane savvy. any way you look at it's not a good situation.

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#7332 Postby supercane » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:54 pm

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WTNT44 KNHC 260255
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HURRICANE IRENE DISCUSSION NUMBER 23
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092011
1100 PM EDT THU AUG 25 2011

TWO HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT...ONE AIR FORCE AND ONE NOAA...ARE
AGAIN TONIGHT SUPPLYING VERY VALUABLE METEOROLOGICAL DATA TO THE
NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER. BOTH PLANES INDICATE THAT THE CENTRAL
PRESSURE IS GRADUALLY FALLING AND IS NOW NEAR 942 MB...BUT THE
WINDS HAVE NOT INCREASED YET. THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS KEPT AT 100
KNOTS AT THIS TIME. IRENE HAS MOVED AWAY FROM THE NORTHWESTERN
BAHAMAS AND IS NOW OVER OPEN WATERS. THE EYE HAS BECOME A LITTLE
BETTER DEFINED ON SATELLITE AND MICROWAVE IMAGERY AND IT APPEARS
THAT THE EYEWALL IS CONTRACTING. GIVEN THE CURRENT STRUCTURE AND
THE WARM WATERS ALONG THE TRACK OF THE HURRICANE...SOME
STRENGTHENING IS INDICATED DURING THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. A SLOW
WEAKENING SHOULD BEGIN THEREAFTER...BUT IRENE IS EXPECTED TO
APPROACH THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA A POWERFUL HURRICANE. IN
FACT...THE HIGH RESOLUTION ECMWF SHOWS A VERY INTENSE CYCLONE
APPROACHING THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST.

SATELLITE AND RECONNAISSANCE FIXES INDICATE THAT IRENE IS MOVING
TOWARD THE NORTH OR 350 DEGREES AT 12 KNOTS. THE HURRICANE IS
ALREADY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE AND IS READY TO
INTERACT WITH SOUTH-SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW AHEAD OF THE THE APPROACHING
MID-LATITUDE TROUGH. IRENE HAS NOWHERE TO GO BUT NORTHWARD WITH A
GRADUAL TURN TO THE NORTH-NORTHEAST AFTER THE CENTER CROSSES OR
PASSES NEAR THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST. THE TRACK GUIDANCE HAS BEEN
VERY CONSISTENT AND CONTINUES TO BE TIGHTLY CLUSTERED...GIVING NO
REASON TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE OFFICIAL FORECAST.

GIVEN THE CURRENT FORECAST...IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO ADJUST THE U.S.
WATCHES AND WARNINGS AT THIS TIME.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 26/0300Z 28.3N 77.3W 100 KT 115 MPH
12H 26/1200Z 30.0N 77.8W 105 KT 120 MPH
24H 27/0000Z 31.8N 77.6W 110 KT 125 MPH
36H 27/1200Z 33.7N 77.1W 105 KT 120 MPH
48H 28/0000Z 36.0N 76.3W 90 KT 105 MPH
72H 29/0000Z 42.0N 73.0W 70 KT 80 MPH...INLAND
96H 30/0000Z 51.0N 66.0W 40 KT 45 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 31/0000Z 58.0N 50.0W 40 KT 45 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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WTNT34 KNHC 260254
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HURRICANE IRENE ADVISORY NUMBER 23
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092011
1100 PM EDT THU AUG 25 2011

...HURRICANE IRENE AIMS ITS FURY TOWARD THE NORTH CAROLINA COAST...


SUMMARY OF 1100 PM EDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...28.3N 77.3W
ABOUT 490 MI...785 KM SSW OF CAPE HATTERAS NORTH CAROLINA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...115 MPH...185 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...N OR 350 DEGREES AT 14 MPH...22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...942 MB...27.82 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES IN WATCHES AND WARNINGS WITH THIS ADVISORY...

THE GOVERNMENT OF THE BAHAMAS HAS DISCONTINUED THE HURRICANE WARNING
FOR THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS EXCEPT FOR GRAND BAHAMA AND THE ABACO
ISLANDS.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* THE GRAND BAHAMA AND THE ABACO ISLANDS
* THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA FROM LITTLE RIVER INLET NORTHWARD TO
THE VIRGINIA BORDER...INCLUDING THE PAMLICO...ALBEMARLE...AND
CURRITUCK SOUNDS

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* THE VIRGINIA/NORTH CAROLINA BORDER NORTHWARD TO SANDY HOOK NEW
JERSEY...INCLUDING DELAWARE BAY...AND CHESAPEAKE BAY SOUTH OF SMITH
POINT

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* NORTH OF EDISTO BEACH SOUTH CAROLINA TO LITTLE RIVER INLET

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM SMITH POINT NORTHWARD AND THE TIDAL POTOMAC

A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE WARNING AREA. A WARNING IS TYPICALLY ISSUED
36 HOURS BEFORE THE ANTICIPATED FIRST OCCURRENCE OF
TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS...CONDITIONS THAT MAKE OUTSIDE
PREPARATIONS DIFFICULT OR DANGEROUS. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE
AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE
EXPECTED SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE
WITHIN THE WATCH AREA. A WATCH IS TYPICALLY ISSUED 48 HOURS
BEFORE THE ANTICIPATED FIRST OCCURRENCE OF TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE
WINDS...CONDITIONS THAT MAKE OUTSIDE PREPARATIONS DIFFICULT OR
DANGEROUS.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 48 HOURS.

INTERESTS ELSEWHERE IN THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES AND NEW ENGLAND
SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF IRENE.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA IN THE UNITED
STATES...INCLUDING POSSIBLE INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE
MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
FORECAST OFFICE. FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA OUTSIDE
THE UNITED STATES...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR NATIONAL
METEOROLOGICAL SERVICE.


DISCUSSION AND 48-HOUR OUTLOOK
------------------------------
AT 1100 PM EDT...0300 UTC...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE IRENE WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 28.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 77.3 WEST. IRENE IS
MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH NEAR 14 MPH...22 KM/H...AND THIS MOTION IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. A GRADUAL TURN TOWARD
THE NORTH-NORTHEAST SHOULD BEGIN THEREAFTER. ON THE FORECAST
TRACK...IRENE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE NORTHWESTERN
BAHAMAS...AND THE CORE OF THE HURRICANE WILL PASS WELL OFFSHORE OF
THE EAST COAST OF CENTRAL AND NORTHERN FLORIDA EARLY FRIDAY. THE
HURRICANE IS FORECAST TO APPROACH THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA ON
SATURDAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 115 MPH...185 KM/H...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. IRENE IS A CATEGORY THREE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON
HURRICANE WIND SCALE. SOME STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE ON FRIDAY.

IRENE IS A LARGE TROPICAL CYCLONE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 80 MILES...130 KM...FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL
STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 290 MILES...465 KM. NOAA
BUOY 41010 LOCATED ABOUT 140 MILES...220 KM EAST OF CAPE CANAVERAL
FLORIDA RECENTLY REPORTED A SUSTAINED WIND OF 49 MPH...79 KM/H...
AND A WIND GUST OF 65 MPH...104 KM/H.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY A NOAA HURRICANE
HUNTER AIRCRAFT WAS 942 MB...27.82 INCHES.


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
WIND...HURRICANE AND TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE SUBSIDING OVER
THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE EXPECTED
WITHIN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE WARNING AREA ALONG THE UNITED
STATES EAST COAST BY LATE FRIDAY. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ARE
EXPECTED TO FIRST REACH THE HURRICANE WARNING AREA BY SATURDAY.

STORM SURGE...ALONG THE EASTERN COAST OF THE UNITED STATES...AN
EXTREMELY DANGEROUS STORM SURGE WILL RAISE WATER LEVELS BY AS MUCH
AS 5 TO 10 FEET ABOVE GROUND LEVEL WITHIN THE HURRICANE WARNING
AREA INCLUDING THE ALBEMARLE AND PAMLICO SOUNDS. NEAR THE
COAST...THE SURGE WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY LARGE...DESTRUCTIVE...AND
LIFE-THREATENING WAVES. IRENE ALSO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE
SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WITHIN THE HURRICANE WATCH AREA
INCLUDING PORTIONS OF THE CHESAPEAKE BAY...TRIBUTARIES...AND THE
EASTERN SHORE.

RAINFALL...IRENE IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE RAINFALL ACCUMULATIONS OF 6
TO 12 INCHES OVER THE NORTHERN BAHAMAS. STORM TOTAL RAINFALL
AMOUNTS OF 6 TO 10 INCHES WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 15
INCHES ARE EXPECTED OVER PORTIONS OF EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA AND IN
THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES ALONG THE PATH OF IRENE.

SURF...SWELLS GENERATED BY IRENE ARE AFFECTING PORTIONS OF THE COAST
OF THE SOUTHEASTERN UNITED STATES. THESE SWELLS WILL CAUSE
LIFE-THREATENING SURF AND RIP CURRENT CONDITIONS.


NEXT ADVISORY
-------------
NEXT INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY...200 AM EDT.
NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY...500 AM EDT.

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WTNT24 KNHC 260253
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HURRICANE IRENE FORECAST/ADVISORY NUMBER 23
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL092011
0300 UTC FRI AUG 26 2011

CHANGES IN WATCHES AND WARNINGS WITH THIS ADVISORY...

THE GOVERNMENT OF THE BAHAMAS HAS DISCONTINUED THE HURRICANE WARNING
FOR THE NORTHWESTERN BAHAMAS EXCEPT FOR GRAND BAHAMA AND THE ABACO
ISLANDS.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* THE GRAND BAHAMA AND THE ABACO ISLANDS
* THE COAST OF NORTH CAROLINA FROM LITTLE RIVER INLET NORTHWARD TO
THE VIRGINIA BORDER...INCLUDING THE PAMLICO...ALBEMARLE...AND
CURRITUCK SOUNDS

A HURRICANE WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* THE VIRGINIA/NORTH CAROLINA BORDER NORTHWARD TO SANDY HOOK NEW
JERSEY...INCLUDING DELAWARE BAY...AND CHESAPEAKE BAY SOUTH OF SMITH
POINT

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* NORTH OF EDISTO BEACH SOUTH CAROLINA TO LITTLE RIVER INLET

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FOR...
* CHESAPEAKE BAY FROM SMITH POINT NORTHWARD AND THE TIDAL POTOMAC

A HURRICANE WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED
SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE WARNING AREA. A WARNING IS TYPICALLY ISSUED
36 HOURS BEFORE THE ANTICIPATED FIRST OCCURRENCE OF
TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS...CONDITIONS THAT MAKE OUTSIDE
PREPARATIONS DIFFICULT OR DANGEROUS. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE
AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE
EXPECTED SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE WARNING AREA WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE
WITHIN THE WATCH AREA. A WATCH IS TYPICALLY ISSUED 48 HOURS
BEFORE THE ANTICIPATED FIRST OCCURRENCE OF TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE
WINDS...CONDITIONS THAT MAKE OUTSIDE PREPARATIONS DIFFICULT OR
DANGEROUS.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE
POSSIBLE WITHIN THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY WITHIN 48 HOURS.

INTERESTS ELSEWHERE IN THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES AND NEW ENGLAND
SHOULD MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF IRENE.

HURRICANE CENTER LOCATED NEAR 28.3N 77.3W AT 26/0300Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 15 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE NORTH OR 350 DEGREES AT 12 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 942 MB
EYE DIAMETER 25 NM
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 100 KT WITH GUSTS TO 120 KT.
64 KT....... 70NE 60SE 25SW 50NW.
50 KT.......110NE 100SE 50SW 75NW.
34 KT.......250NE 200SE 125SW 160NW.
12 FT SEAS..330NE 300SE 120SW 270NW.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 28.3N 77.3W AT 26/0300Z
AT 26/0000Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 27.7N 77.4W

FORECAST VALID 26/1200Z 30.0N 77.8W
MAX WIND 105 KT...GUSTS 130 KT.
64 KT... 70NE 60SE 25SW 50NW.
50 KT...110NE 100SE 50SW 75NW.
34 KT...250NE 200SE 125SW 160NW.

FORECAST VALID 27/0000Z 31.8N 77.6W
MAX WIND 110 KT...GUSTS 135 KT.
64 KT... 70NE 60SE 25SW 50NW.
50 KT...110NE 100SE 50SW 75NW.
34 KT...250NE 200SE 125SW 160NW.

FORECAST VALID 27/1200Z 33.7N 77.1W
MAX WIND 105 KT...GUSTS 130 KT.
64 KT... 70NE 60SE 25SW 50NW.
50 KT...110NE 100SE 50SW 75NW.
34 KT...250NE 200SE 125SW 160NW.

FORECAST VALID 28/0000Z 36.0N 76.3W
MAX WIND 90 KT...GUSTS 110 KT.
50 KT...120NE 120SE 60SW 75NW.
34 KT...270NE 240SE 140SW 120NW.

FORECAST VALID 29/0000Z 42.0N 73.0W...INLAND
MAX WIND 70 KT...GUSTS 85 KT.
50 KT...120NE 120SE 60SW 75NW.
34 KT...270NE 270SE 140SW 120NW.

EXTENDED OUTLOOK. NOTE...ERRORS FOR TRACK HAVE AVERAGED NEAR 175 NM
ON DAY 4 AND 225 NM ON DAY 5...AND FOR INTENSITY NEAR 20 KT EACH DAY

OUTLOOK VALID 30/0000Z 51.0N 66.0W...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
MAX WIND 40 KT...GUSTS 50 KT.

OUTLOOK VALID 31/0000Z 58.0N 50.0W...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
MAX WIND 40 KT...GUSTS 50 KT.

REQUEST FOR 3 HOURLY SHIP REPORTS WITHIN 300 MILES OF 28.3N 77.3W

NEXT ADVISORY AT 26/0900Z

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#7333 Postby Dave » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:56 pm

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URNT15 KWBC 260228
NOAA2 2309A IRENE HDOB 40 20110826
021900 2652N 07821W 7525 02419 9829 +144 +135 295053 063 042 009 03
021930 2651N 07823W 7521 02424 9936 +142 +146 313057 058 /// /// 03
022000 2649N 07824W 7522 02428 9940 +143 //// 313056 057 /// /// 05
022030 2648N 07826W 7523 02431 9946 +142 +145 311056 057 /// /// 03
022100 2646N 07827W 7524 02434 9950 +141 +145 311055 057 /// /// 03
022130 2645N 07829W 7522 02439 9956 +138 +143 311057 058 /// /// 03
022200 2643N 07830W 7523 02439 9965 +132 +134 313057 058 /// /// 03
022230 2642N 07832W 7525 02439 9967 +133 +127 314060 060 /// /// 03
022300 2640N 07833W 7525 02441 9964 +139 +128 315061 061 /// /// 03
022330 2639N 07835W 7522 02447 9963 +144 +121 314058 059 /// /// 03
022400 2638N 07836W 7524 02450 9963 +150 +115 312055 056 /// /// 03
022430 2636N 07838W 7523 02453 9962 +155 +115 309052 052 /// /// 03
022500 2635N 07839W 7523 02457 9977 +143 +117 308048 049 /// /// 03
022530 2634N 07841W 7523 02460 9987 +137 +114 311049 050 /// /// 03
022600 2632N 07842W 7526 02460 9993 +132 +115 314048 048 /// /// 03
022630 2631N 07844W 7524 02461 9997 +129 +117 315048 049 /// /// 03
022700 2630N 07845W 7525 02462 9992 +137 +108 314048 049 /// /// 03
022730 2628N 07847W 7527 02462 9994 +137 +109 316052 053 /// /// 03
022800 2627N 07849W 7522 02469 9989 +145 +104 312053 054 /// /// 03
022830 2626N 07850W 7413 02597 9991 +142 +085 314054 055 /// /// 03
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#7334 Postby vacanechaser » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:56 pm

SUMMARY OF 1100 PM EDT...0300 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...28.3N 77.3W
ABOUT 490 MI...785 KM SSW OF CAPE HATTERAS NORTH CAROLINA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...115 MPH...185 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...N OR 350 DEGREES AT 14 MPH...22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...942 MB...27.82 INCHES


pressure 942... not 935


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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#7335 Postby Hogweed » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:56 pm

Product: NOAA Vortex Message (URNT12 KWBC)
Transmitted: 26th day of the month at 02:16Z
Aircraft: Lockheed WP-3D Orion (Reg. Num. N42RF)
Storm Number: 09
Storm Name: Irene (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 23
Storm Number & Year: 09L in 2011
Observation Number: 36
A. Time of Center Fix: 26th day of the month at 1:58Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 27°49'N 77°21'W (27.8167N 77.35W)
B. Center Fix Location: 184 miles (295 km) to the ENE (65°) from West Palm Beach, FL, USA.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: Not Available
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind: 82kts (~ 94.4mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind: 13 nautical miles (15 statute miles) to the NNE (31°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 128° at 99kts (From the SE at ~ 113.9mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 18 nautical miles (21 statute miles) to the NE (35°) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 942mb (27.82 inHg)
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 17°C (63°F) at a pressure alt. of 2,445m (8,022ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 21°C (70°F) at a pressure alt. of 2,440m (8,005ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): 16°C (61°F)
K. Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Open in the southwest
M. Eye Shape & Diameter: Circular with a diameter of 25 nautical miles (29 statute miles)
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
N. Fix Level: Other - Not surface, 1500ft, 925mb (if vortex is newer than about mid 90's; see note for more), 850mb, 700mb, 500mb, 400mb, 300mb or 200mb
O. Navigation Fix Accuracy: 1 nautical mile
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile
Remarks Section:
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 111kts (~ 127.7mph) in the northeast quadrant at 21:25Z
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#7336 Postby weatherSnoop » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:56 pm

AF304 2409A IRENE HDOB 10 20110826
024030 2914N 07959W 3758 08026 0404 -175 -198 014025 026 /// /// 03
024100 2913N 07956W 3759 08024 0403 -172 -209 014027 028 /// /// 03
024130 2912N 07953W 3758 08025 0402 -171 -199 027029 029 /// /// 03
024200 2912N 07950W 3763 08008 0398 -166 -206 022028 029 /// /// 03
024230 2911N 07947W 3792 07952 0392 -165 -201 024028 028 /// /// 03
024300 2910N 07944W 3966 07615 0372 -142 -184 019032 034 /// /// 03
024330 2909N 07941W 4171 07229 0341 -116 -160 019038 038 /// /// 03
024400 2909N 07938W 4393 06825 0311 -094 -132 022037 038 /// /// 03
024430 2908N 07935W 4629 06427 0291 -076 -103 027032 036 /// /// 03
024500 2907N 07932W 4920 05947 0256 -053 -074 028034 036 /// /// 03
024530 2907N 07929W 5215 05487 0225 -029 -051 029039 040 /// /// 03
024600 2906N 07926W 5518 05034 9992 -004 -029 029041 042 /// /// 03
024630 2905N 07923W 5835 04578 9994 +021 -007 026043 045 /// /// 03
024700 2905N 07921W 6091 04221 9992 +039 +003 024043 045 /// /// 03
024730 2904N 07918W 6353 03875 9990 +059 +014 026044 045 /// /// 03
024800 2904N 07916W 6626 03525 9990 +078 +029 027046 049 /// /// 03
024830 2903N 07913W 6908 03178 9991 +094 +046 030051 052 /// /// 03
024900 2903N 07911W 6965 03101 9983 +100 +051 029052 052 /// /// 03
024930 2902N 07909W 6965 03097 9984 +096 +054 030052 053 /// /// 03
025000 2902N 07907W 6973 03085 9983 +094 +058 029051 052 /// /// 03
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#7337 Postby Dave » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:58 pm

000
URNT11 KWBC 260239
97779 02394 60266 7960/ 43600 32040 0400/ /8019
RMK NOAA2 2309A IRENE OB 39 KWBC
LAST REPORT

NOAA 2 Mission Over
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#7338 Postby bexar » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:02 pm

poor Irene, she is surely gonna be retired.
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#7339 Postby weatherSnoop » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:02 pm

Dave, thanks are a tad premature...As I re-learn and now I need to hit the hay. After work on Friday, I will be able to stay up a little later. BTW, congrats to you and Mark. I will do what I can, when I can

Your doing great!! I'll look for you tomorrow night...we've got plenty of them coming up. Thanks!
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Hurricane - Discussion

#7340 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:03 pm

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