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#2061 Postby meriland23 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:48 pm

Ello people :). Back on now, what did I miss? Any real big changes in pattern? Any models in favor with eachother?
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#2062 Postby meriland23 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:49 pm

oh btw, here is the 18z gfs updating now.

http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... SLoop.html
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2063 Postby HurricaneRobert » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:24 pm

Andrew turned into garbage and was written off as a threat once.
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#2064 Postby blazess556 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:25 pm

18z GFS moving the trough further to the west which lets the Bermuda high expand more to the west.
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2065 Postby fci » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:35 pm

HurricaneRobert wrote:Andrew turned into garbage and was written off as a threat once.


We like to avoid all "A" storm references as much as possible......... :eek:
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#2066 Postby KWT » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:39 pm

yeah its a little early yet to have total confidence on the track BUT I think its quite likely to still recurve.

Models quite suggestive that the upper trough will dig down enough to turn Katia close to 35N to the NE quite sharply.
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#2067 Postby AdamFirst » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:39 pm

Here, have some more Ensemble

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12z EURO Ensemble 144hr


Both the GFS and EURO ensembles are either at or south-west of the operationals
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#2068 Postby supercane » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:43 pm

moved to model thread
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#2069 Postby meriland23 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:44 pm

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#2070 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:50 pm

meriland23 wrote:http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/gfs/18zgfs850300mbsheartropical180.gif :larrow: that is too close for comfort.

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#2071 Postby supercane » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:02 pm

Latest microwave:
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#2072 Postby supercane » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:09 pm

18Z operational GFS still shows late recurve, though no consistency in latest runs as to when and where it would occur:
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#2073 Postby meriland23 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:15 pm

floridasun78 wrote:
meriland23 wrote:http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/gfs/18zgfs850300mbsheartropical180.gif :larrow: that is too close for comfort.

link dont work

Sorry here is what I was looking at

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2074 Postby Tom8 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:22 pm

Katia 2 on the horizont

or two Katias on the horizont ?

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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#2075 Postby BigA » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:41 pm

More 18Z runs rolling in...some of them concerning.

18Z NOGAPS: Landfall in the Outer banks, then up toward Long Island as a hurricane at 180 hours.

18ZHWRF-Well to the South and west (and faster) than the 12Z run. The 12Z run had it at 28N 66W in 126 hours. This run has it at 27.5N 73W in 126 hours. This is concerning because it means these models see the ridge as building in stronger. If the ridge causes Katia to move so fast that it hits land before the trough comes, or the trough doesn't come when it is predicted, Katia could make landfall. I still think a near miss is most likely, but not likely enough to have great confidence.

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#2076 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:47 pm

I see you on infrared, Katia!
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#2077 Postby meriland23 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:48 pm

BigA wrote:More 18Z runs rolling in...some of them concerning.

18Z NOGAPS: Landfall in the Outer banks, then up toward Long Island as a hurricane at 180 hours.

18ZHWRF-Well to the South and west (and faster) than the 12Z run. The 12Z run had it at 28N 66W in 126 hours. This run has it at 27.5N 73W in 126 hours. This is concerning because it means these models see the ridge as building in stronger. If the ridge causes Katia to move so fast that it hits land before the trough comes, or the trough doesn't come when it is predicted, Katia could make landfall. I still think a near miss is most likely, but not likely enough to have great confidence.

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I see the same thing you are, and the GFS looks more ominous and on more of a irene type track up the ec, every run it is just west a little closer. I really hope that whatever the outcome, they are really certain about it soon cause we are running out of time to get people out of spots of the ec that potentially will get hit.

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#2078 Postby Time_Zone » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:51 pm

So looks like it will stay offshore and not affect Atlantic Canada as well?

If it did make its way up here im guessing it wouldnt be strong anyways... Strong TS/Low end Category1 hurricane sound about right...maybe less?
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2079 Postby expat2carib » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:51 pm

Yes, is she going schizophrenic ?

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BTW tried to upload this image. Didn't work
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Re: ATL: KATIA - Models

#2080 Postby jabman98 » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:52 pm

BigA wrote:More 18Z runs rolling in...some of them concerning.

18Z NOGAPS: Landfall in the Outer banks, then up toward Long Island as a hurricane at 180 hours.

Yikes. That's Irene 2.0. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
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