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#1761 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:08 pm

Poor Texas!

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Re: ENSO Updates

#1762 Postby South Texas Storms » Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:12 pm

BOOOO!!!! Sigh...
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Re: ENSO Updates

#1763 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:43 pm

Its looking like la nina will return for winter
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#1764 Postby NDG » Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:33 am

With latest EUROSIP forecast it is becoming more evident that a return to at least a weak La Nina is very much possible.

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It also shows TX and parts of the south to have a warmer than average Fall.
FL, enjoy the current rains, the drier than average wx will take over by at least October into the winter.

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Re: ENSO=CPC 8/15/11 update=Nino 3.4 down to -0.5C

#1765 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:07 pm

Climate Prediction Center 8/15/11 Update

Nino 3.4 is down from -0.4C of last week to -0.5C this week. Is now in the borderline between Neutral and La Nina.

Niño 4= -0.1ºC
Niño 3.4= -0.5ºC
Niño 3= -0.5ºC
Niño1+2= -0.1ºC


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#1766 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:31 pm

Wow, La Nina is coming back quicker than thought. :uarrow:
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#1767 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:38 pm

Could see some big numbers this year, a weak La Nina strengthening into the Autumn with a neutral first half is nearly the ideal combo in theory...
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Re: CPC 8/15/11 update=Borderline between Neutral/La Nina -0.5C

#1768 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:54 pm

The forecasts by the models was for a La Nina to return by late fall and Winter.But it looks like is comming sooner.
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Re: CPC 8/15/11 update=Borderline between Neutral/La Nina -0.5C

#1769 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:00 pm

Here is the CFS model.The black line is above where it is now at -0.5C in mid August.

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Re: CPC 8/15/11 update=Borderline between Neutral/La Nina -0.5C

#1770 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:05 pm

this could be another signal that hurricane season will go gangbusters within the next couple of weeks, la ninas tend to do that especially cape verde systems
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Re: CPC 8/15/11 update=Borderline between Neutral/La Nina -0.5C

#1771 Postby HurricaneWarning92 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:10 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:this could be another signal that hurricane season will go gangbusters within the next couple of weeks, la ninas tend to do that especially cape verde systems


Yes, but most cape verde systems that form far in the eastern Atlantic end up going on vacation catching some fish...
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Re: CPC 8/15/11 update=Borderline between Neutral/La Nina -0.5C

#1772 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:13 pm

HurricaneWarning92 wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:this could be another signal that hurricane season will go gangbusters within the next couple of weeks, la ninas tend to do that especially cape verde systems


Yes, but most cape verde systems that form far in the eastern Atlantic end up going on vacation catching some fish...


a majority of them do, but for many recurves, you can get 1 that pulls an isabel or 1938
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Re: CPC 8/15/11 update=Borderline between Neutral/La Nina -0.5C

#1773 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:40 pm

ENSO models August update:

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Re: CPC 8/22/11 update:Nino 3.4 below Neutral threshold at -0.7C

#1774 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:25 pm

Climate Prediction Center 8/22/11 update

ENSO continues to drop towards cooler waters and in this update,it drops to -0.7C,below Neutral threshold.This means that La Nina is comming more rapidly than the forecasts said in past weeks.

Niño 4 -0.2ºC
Niño 3.4 -0.7ºC
Niño 3 -0.5ºC
Niño1+2 -0.3ºC


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Re: ENSO Updates

#1775 Postby HurricaneFan » Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:52 am

So any more updates on the developing La Nina?
I know it takes 3 months to officially declare it,but isn't it affecting the atmosphere already?
And if so,wouldn't that affect the remainder of the Cape Verde Season by making it more active and bringing more storms west because of a stronger ridge?
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#1776 Postby NDG » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:37 pm

Well, it looks like a weak La Nina already to me if not very close.

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Re: ENSO=Breaking News=CPC Sept update=La Nina returns

#1777 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:25 am

Climate Prediction Center 9/8/11 Monthly update

Officially,La Nina is back!!

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/a ... odisc.html

Synopsis: La Niña conditions have returned and are expected to gradually strengthen and continue into the Northern Hemisphere winter 2011-12.

La Niña conditions returned in August 2011 due to the strengthening of negative sea surface temperature (SST) anomalies across the eastern half of the equatorial Pacific Ocean (Fig. 1). With the exception of the far westernmost Niño-4 region, all of the latest weekly Niño index values were –0.5oC or less (Fig. 2). Also supporting the return of La Niña conditions was the strengthening of the below-average subsurface oceanic heat content anomaly (average temperature anomalies in the upper 300m of the ocean, Fig. 3), in response to increased upwelling and further shoaling of the thermocline across the eastern Pacific Ocean (Fig. 4). The atmospheric circulation over the tropical Pacific continued to exhibit La Niña characteristics, but remained weaker and less canonical than the wintertime atmospheric patterns. For example, convection continued to be suppressed near the Date Line, but remained south of the equator, while convection was only weakly enhanced near Papua New Guinea (Fig. 5). In addition, anomalous low-level easterly and upper-level westerly winds persisted over the central tropical Pacific. Collectively, these oceanic and atmospheric patterns reflect the return of La Niña conditions.

Over the last several months many models have predicted increasingly negative SST anomalies in the Nino-3.4 region during the upcoming Northern Hemisphere fall and winter. However, the majority of models continue to predict ENSO-neutral conditions for this period (Fig. 6). The NCEP Climate Forecast System (CFS) has performed quite well over the past several months (Fig. 7) capturing the recent decrease in SST anomalies. The better model performance, combined with the historical tendency for significant La Niña episodes (as in 2010-11) to be followed by relatively weaker La Niña episodes, leads to increased confidence that La Niña will persist into the winter. While it is not yet clear what the ultimate strength of this La Niña will be, La Niña conditions have returned and are expected to gradually strengthen and continue into the Northern Hemisphere winter 2011-12.

Across the contiguous United States, temperature and precipitation impacts associated with La Niña are expected to remain weak during the remainder of the Northern Hemisphere summer and early fall, and to generally strengthen during the late fall and winter. During September-November 2011, there is evidence that La Niña favors an increased chance of above-average temperatures across the mid-section of the country, and an increased chance of above-average precipitation across the Pacific Northwest (see 3-month seasonal outlook released on 18 August 2011).

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#1778 Postby gatorcane » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:47 am

Should make for an interesting Late season, we may very well go into the Greek alphabet this year :eek:
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#1779 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:15 pm

gatorcane wrote:Should make for an interesting Late season, we may very well go into the Greek alphabet this year :eek:


It looks like an active late season with La Nina now entrenched in the Pacific There is a 50/50 chance that 2011 may reach greek.
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Re: ENSO Updates=CPC Sept update=LA NINA IS BACK!

#1780 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:51 am

There is La Nina. Will it get stronger by the winter months?

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