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Re: ATL: MARIA - Recon Discussion

#1901 Postby artist » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:34 am

clfenwi wrote:I can post obs for Maria.

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Recon

#1902 Postby clfenwi » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:35 am

URNT15 KNHC 101332
AF308 0414A MARIA HDOB 06 20110910
132230 1717N 06148W 9584 00439 0078 +215 +195 055019 020 021 000 00
132300 1716N 06146W 9587 00435 0077 +217 +202 053019 019 022 000 01
132330 1715N 06145W 9584 00438 0077 +217 +200 053020 021 022 000 01
132400 1714N 06144W 9586 00435 0077 +215 +196 052019 020 022 001 01
132430 1713N 06143W 9588 00435 0079 +218 +193 051020 021 023 000 01
132500 1711N 06142W 9582 00439 0076 +215 +199 044020 020 023 000 01
132530 1710N 06141W 9589 00449 0085 +215 +202 049020 022 025 000 03
132600 1709N 06140W 9583 00436 0076 +211 +201 050021 022 024 005 05
132630 1708N 06139W 9587 00433 0082 +212 +197 051020 021 024 000 00
132700 1707N 06137W 9582 00438 0074 +213 +203 043018 018 025 000 01
132730 1706N 06136W 9578 00440 0074 +215 +195 043019 020 025 001 01
132800 1705N 06135W 9584 00435 0074 +214 +199 044019 019 023 001 01
132830 1704N 06134W 9581 00438 0075 +213 +188 047018 019 023 001 00
132900 1703N 06133W 9576 00441 0074 +214 +191 052014 016 024 000 01
132930 1702N 06132W 9584 00434 0072 +215 +190 047013 013 019 000 01
133000 1700N 06131W 9581 00438 0076 +213 +194 044012 014 021 000 00
133030 1659N 06129W 9576 00441 0072 +216 +189 049008 009 021 000 01
133100 1658N 06128W 9576 00440 0071 +217 +187 047007 007 021 000 00
133130 1657N 06127W 9577 00440 0072 +215 +182 040007 008 019 000 01
133200 1656N 06126W 9581 00435 0072 +212 +192 040008 010 022 003 01
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#1903 Postby Caribwxgirl » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:42 am

Guess she couldn't figure out where to go half her wants to go north and half wants to go west.
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#1904 Postby Gustywind » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:44 am

SootyTern wrote:I also see what Gustywind and others have noticed; Maria seems to be splitting with the lower(southernmost) section going west and the northernmost section going north. The ULL to the NW looks like it has gotten stronger? Untrained observations here.


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You may be right. Given my untrained eyes looks like the northern part of Maria is experiencing strong windshear while the southern part is fighting to stay alive with the heavy convection east south east of Martinica.

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#1905 Postby clfenwi » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:45 am

URNT15 KNHC 101343
AF308 0414A MARIA HDOB 07 20110910
133230 1655N 06125W 9580 00435 0071 +217 +185 051005 007 016 000 01
133300 1654N 06123W 9574 00440 0070 +216 +194 030005 005 016 000 00
133330 1653N 06122W 9584 00448 0081 +219 +190 033004 005 011 000 01
133400 1652N 06121W 9579 00436 0069 +219 +191 021004 005 009 000 01
133430 1651N 06120W 9582 00432 0075 +220 +196 006003 004 010 000 00
133500 1650N 06119W 9578 00437 0070 +220 +193 341003 003 010 000 00
133530 1649N 06117W 9584 00449 0078 +220 +196 316001 002 010 000 03
133600 1647N 06116W 9581 00434 0074 +220 +196 276002 002 010 000 01
133630 1646N 06115W 9577 00437 0070 +219 +199 305002 003 011 001 01
133700 1645N 06114W 9584 00448 0077 +219 +191 248003 005 012 000 01
133730 1644N 06113W 9582 00432 0075 +220 +196 229007 007 013 000 01
133800 1643N 06112W 9576 00437 0073 +223 +203 236006 007 010 001 00
133830 1641N 06111W 9580 00433 0076 +225 +208 238006 007 010 000 00
133900 1640N 06110W 9576 00438 0068 +222 +207 242007 007 009 000 00
133930 1639N 06109W 9584 00447 0081 +225 +206 226008 008 008 000 01
134000 1638N 06108W 9578 00435 0068 +221 +202 223007 008 008 001 01
134030 1637N 06107W 9580 00435 0068 +220 +202 208007 007 010 000 00
134100 1635N 06106W 9578 00435 0067 +223 +201 222009 010 009 001 00
134130 1634N 06105W 9584 00432 0072 +225 +197 222010 011 010 000 03
134200 1634N 06103W 9578 00437 0068 +224 +203 215010 010 009 000 00
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#1906 Postby dwsqos2 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:46 am

There's a pathetic wind shift at 440 meters.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Recon

#1907 Postby artist » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:53 am

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#1908 Postby artist » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:53 am

does anyone have the latest model runs?
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1909 Postby artist » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:57 am

here is the latest NHC models from SFWMD -

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#1910 Postby clfenwi » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:57 am

AF308 0414A MARIA HDOB 08 20110910
134230 1633N 06102W 9581 00434 0069 +224 +205 210010 011 010 000 01
134300 1632N 06101W 9580 00436 0069 +225 +200 202012 013 009 000 00
134330 1631N 06059W 9581 00436 0070 +221 +207 204011 012 008 000 01
134400 1631N 06058W 9580 00439 0072 +219 +209 207012 013 011 001 01
134430 1630N 06056W 9588 00447 0077 +220 +203 197015 015 010 000 00
134500 1629N 06055W 9578 00440 0072 +221 +206 196014 015 013 000 01
134530 1629N 06053W 9579 00440 0072 +224 +200 199014 015 011 001 01
134600 1628N 06052W 9580 00440 0073 +220 +191 202014 015 010 000 01
134630 1627N 06051W 9582 00436 0074 +220 +205 201014 014 009 001 01
134700 1626N 06049W 9580 00440 0074 +220 +207 200014 015 009 001 01
134730 1626N 06048W 9580 00440 0075 +222 +195 195015 015 012 000 01
134800 1625N 06046W 9579 00442 0076 +220 +201 192014 015 011 000 00
134830 1624N 06045W 9578 00444 0076 +220 +205 189014 014 012 000 00
134900 1624N 06043W 9582 00440 0077 +220 +205 189014 014 011 001 01
134930 1623N 06042W 9578 00444 0077 +223 +204 190015 015 012 000 01
135000 1622N 06041W 9578 00445 0078 +220 +203 191015 015 012 000 01
135030 1621N 06039W 9582 00441 0078 +220 +198 188015 015 012 000 01
135100 1621N 06038W 9580 00443 0078 +221 +207 183016 017 012 000 01
135130 1620N 06036W 9577 00446 0078 +222 +205 184017 018 014 000 00
135200 1619N 06035W 9579 00446 0078 +220 +199 181017 018 015 000 00
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#1911 Postby Caribwxgirl » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:59 am

artist wrote:does anyone have the latest model runs?


Lol the very question I came in here to ask.
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1912 Postby artist » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:01 am

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1913 Postby cpdaman » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:04 am

lets c if there is enough vorticity w the southern part of the wave/maria that is moving more westward that could spin up
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#1914 Postby clfenwi » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:04 am

URNT15 KNHC 101402
AF308 0414A MARIA HDOB 09 20110910
135230 1619N 06034W 9579 00445 0079 +223 +207 182019 020 017 001 01
135300 1618N 06032W 9577 00447 0080 +223 +202 182018 019 014 001 01
135330 1617N 06031W 9580 00446 0080 +224 +203 183018 019 016 000 01
135400 1617N 06030W 9580 00446 0080 +221 +204 185016 017 015 001 01
135430 1616N 06028W 9580 00445 0080 +223 +209 176017 019 014 001 00
135500 1615N 06027W 9580 00447 0081 +225 +206 178019 020 016 000 00
135530 1614N 06026W 9582 00444 0082 +219 +209 178020 020 018 002 01
135600 1614N 06024W 9580 00448 0082 +225 +196 177021 021 017 002 00
135630 1613N 06023W 9580 00447 0082 +228 +198 179021 021 019 001 01
135700 1612N 06021W 9578 00450 0083 +228 +201 178022 023 017 001 00
135730 1612N 06020W 9582 00446 0083 +226 +199 178021 023 019 000 00
135800 1611N 06019W 9582 00447 0083 +227 +204 175021 022 021 000 01
135830 1610N 06017W 9580 00449 0084 +228 +200 172021 022 022 000 01
135900 1610N 06016W 9574 00456 0085 +225 +209 173022 022 022 000 01
135930 1609N 06015W 9581 00449 0085 +225 +202 169022 023 022 001 00
140000 1608N 06013W 9578 00451 0085 +225 +216 169022 022 023 000 01
140030 1608N 06012W 9580 00450 0085 +226 +208 171022 023 023 000 00
140100 1607N 06011W 9580 00452 0086 +226 +199 172022 022 022 000 01
140130 1606N 06009W 9580 00451 0086 +227 +207 171020 021 021 000 01
140200 1606N 06008W 9580 00451 0086 +228 +201 172020 021 020 000 05

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Re: ATL: MARIA - Recon

#1915 Postby clfenwi » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:12 am

URNT11 KNHC 101403
97779 14000 70161 60200 04700 17022 23//8 /9755
41720
RMK AF308 0414A MARIA OB 02
SWS = 22 KTS

Product: Air Force Tropical RECCO Message (URNT11 KNHC)
Transmitted: 10th day of the month at 14:03Z
Aircraft: Air Force Aircraft (Last 3 digits of the tail number are 308)
Storm Number: 14
Storm Name: Maria (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 4
Observation Number: 02

Mandatory Data...

Observation Time: Saturday, 14:00Z
Radar Capability: Yes
Aircraft Altitude: Below 10,000 meters
Coordinates: 16.1N 60.2W
Location: 97 miles (156 km) to the NE (55°) from Roseau, Dominica.
Turbulence: None
Conditions Along Flight Route: In the clear
Pressure Altitude: 470 meters
Flight Level Wind: From 170° at 22 knots (From the S at ~ 25.3 mph)
- The above is a spot wind.
- Winds were obtained using doppler radar or inertial systems.
Flight Level Temperature: 23°C
Flight Level Dew Point: Not available, probably because the dew point hygrometer was not working.
Weather (within 30 nautical miles): Shower(s) (continuous or intermittent precipitation - from cumuliform clouds)
925 mb Surface Altitude: 755 geopotential meters

Optional Data...
Estimated Surface Wind: From 170° at 20 knots (From the S at ~ 23.0 mph)

Remarks Section...
Surface Wind Speed (likely by SFMR): 22 knots (~ 25.3mph)
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Recon

#1916 Postby artist » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:14 am

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#1917 Postby clfenwi » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:14 am

URNT15 KNHC 101412
AF308 0414A MARIA HDOB 10 20110910
140230 1605N 06007W 9572 00460 0087 +228 +210 168019 019 /// /// 05
140300 1604N 06009W 9578 00454 0087 +225 +212 162018 019 006 003 05
140330 1604N 06010W 9582 00449 0086 +228 +213 163019 019 017 000 00
140400 1604N 06012W 9578 00451 0085 +227 +215 164019 019 018 000 01
140430 1604N 06014W 9581 00450 0085 +227 +206 165019 020 019 000 01
140500 1604N 06015W 9577 00453 0084 +227 +220 160020 020 019 000 01
140530 1604N 06017W 9581 00450 0085 +225 +199 160020 021 018 001 01
140600 1604N 06019W 9582 00449 0085 +225 +209 162019 020 019 000 00
140630 1603N 06020W 9579 00451 0084 +225 +210 162018 019 020 000 01
140700 1603N 06022W 9582 00449 0085 +226 +207 165017 018 017 000 01
140730 1603N 06023W 9579 00451 0084 +229 +205 168018 018 017 000 01
140800 1603N 06025W 9577 00453 0084 +226 +212 174018 018 016 000 01
140830 1603N 06027W 9582 00448 0084 +228 +210 177018 018 017 000 01
140900 1603N 06028W 9576 00454 0084 +225 +207 175018 019 016 001 00
140930 1603N 06030W 9582 00448 0084 +225 +205 177017 018 017 000 00
141000 1603N 06031W 9579 00450 0084 +225 +208 179017 018 015 000 01
141030 1602N 06033W 9581 00447 0084 +225 +214 180017 018 013 000 01
141100 1602N 06035W 9582 00447 0084 +223 +204 188015 016 014 001 00
141130 1602N 06036W 9578 00450 0083 +225 +199 184016 017 011 000 01
141200 1602N 06038W 9580 00450 0083 +225 +212 184016 016 012 000 00
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Re: ATL: MARIA - Models

#1918 Postby artist » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:16 am

cpdaman wrote:lets c if there is enough vorticity w the southern part of the wave/maria that is moving more westward that could spin up

yeah, it is gonna be interesting to see what happens with it.
When do the next models run?
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#1919 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:20 am

this is a mess.. I have found 3 vorts within this very ob long gyre... 2 down in the SE Carribean... 1 wsw of St. lucia the other just north of the ABC islands... then the last one is to the NNE of Guadalupe. its may be possible that the northern part lifts out and leaves the southern energy behind... all in all its a mess and not sure the models are going to do well with this in the short term.. throws a wrench, crowbar , and some nails into the mix..lol
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#1920 Postby artist » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:23 am

Aric Dunn wrote:this is a mess.. I have found 3 vorts within this very ob long gyre... 2 down in the SE Carribean... 1 wsw of St. lucia the other just north of the ABC islands... then the last one is to the NNE of Guadalupe. its may be possible that the northern part lifts out and leaves the southern energy behind... all in all its a mess and not sure the models are going to do well with this in the short term.. throws a wrench, crowbar , and some nails into the mix..lol

yeah, it will be interesting to see how it is handled. I notice Avila said he is not giving up on it yet. :lol: When will the next models be out Aric?
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