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orangeblood wrote:Ntxw wrote:orangeblood wrote:One thing is for sure, the GFS has been very consistent on brutally cold air building across Canada next week. This brutally cold air, if it was to verify, will be very dense and should beat the models as far as the southern extent of the arctic boundary. Wherever this boundary sets up, thats where the fun and games should be and would expect the models to trend further south with time!! imo
Have you taken a look at the warming forecasts lately for the stratosphere? The next wave seems to be even stronger and has potential to beat down the PV even more!
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/strat_a_f/
Yeah, it makes you think this pattern might lock and hold for awhile. Those would be some crazy height rises building across Alaska into the Yukon Territory, if this forecast were to verify, possibly making the Arctic Express train quite long...sending one Arctic High after another into the lower latitudes.
weatherdude1108 wrote:I was looking at that stratosphere page, and I got confused. What am I looking at? How do you
figure out what's coming down the Arctic "pipe" from the mass of data on this page? Trying to
narrow it down and simplify it. I'm just not familiar with this stratosphere page. Thanks for your
help.
Portastorm wrote:Larry Cosgrove's blog post tonight ought to get some tongues wagging ...
http://www.examiner.com/weather-in-houston/houston-tx-and-vicinity-weather-forecast-thursday-january-5-2012
Ntxw wrote:weatherdude1108 wrote:I was looking at that stratosphere page, and I got confused. What am I looking at? How do you
figure out what's coming down the Arctic "pipe" from the mass of data on this page? Trying to
narrow it down and simplify it. I'm just not familiar with this stratosphere page. Thanks for your
help.
It can be a complex thing to learn, but from my miniscule of knowledge regarding such if you take a look at that page scroll down and look for "NCEP/GFS Analyses and Forecasts" >temperature. That is the GFS forecast for temps in the stratosphere (click on the NH ones, it's for the northern hemisphere, 10-70mb is usually good places to look at). Usually when the AO+ is present it is cold all over the arctic stratospheric regions with no warm anomalies with a strong PV. That has been the regime in December, all of the cold is bottled up there.
From what I've read, a SSW or MWW (same things), warm temperature surges disturb the cold PV (AO+) and if strong enough can send it into the troposphere (where our weather is) hence bringing down cold with it. More/stronger warming waves can also then push it into the lower latitudes once present in the troposphere (AO-), and that is when we begin the arctic march! If anyone wants to add or correct feel free, this is all from reading so hopefully I got it down enough!
Think of it as warm air expands, cold air condenses. As the stratosphere warms it expands, and the troposphere has to condense.
Portastorm wrote:For those here who think most of us only post when we see Arctic outbreaks or winter storms on the horizon ...
None of the 0z operational runs (GFS, Euro, CMC, or UKie) show polar air plunging towards Texas in the next 6-10 days. In fact, there is a lot of model disparity this morning and still, within that mixed up bunch, none of them are showing any "excitement" from what I can tell beyond this weekend's upper low (and that's only on some of the models).
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