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#741 Postby southerngale » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:57 pm

The USA hasn't had a June hurricane since 1986, when Hurricane Bonnie hit the Upper Texas coast. (High Island landfall) Climatologically, it's rather unusual.


1986 - Hurricane Bonnie - SE TX
1972 - Hurricane Agnes - FL Panhandle
1966 - Hurricane Alma - FL Panhandle
1957 - Hurricane Audrey - SW LA / SE TX
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#742 Postby thetruesms » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:58 pm

jabman98 wrote:What's the recon schedule? They cancelled the flight today, right? Are they flying it tomorrow?
Yes to both. Well, at least rescheduled for tomorrow - it obviously would be canceled if there's still no need
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#743 Postby tolakram » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:58 pm

If there are no further active runs happening then it's time to take this to the discussion thread, or perhaps take a break. Thanks.

Posts have been deleted. Please refrain from posts not directly related to model runs. Take respectful discussions to the discussion thread.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#744 Postby Zanthe » Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:58 pm

bqhurricane wrote:I think one of the local pro mets in Houston said that if Debby forms, this would be the first time ever to have 4 names storms in June.


Pretty much! 2005 holds the first four record thing. That was hurricane...Dennis, i think.
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#745 Postby FutureEM » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:00 pm

This has been a surprisingly active early season...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#746 Postby Air Force Met » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:02 pm

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Based on the organization of invest 96L on radar and the good outflow of the system. I believe that Invest 96L is a tropical depression right now.


I would have to disagree. There is no defined center and the convection is a mess. Most of what is being seen on IR is debris clouds from the earlier convective blowup. The convection that is there is not that deep. YOu've got shear coming on from the west...and shear going out from the convection...meeting over the very broad center....which is why there is no convection going on there: downward vertical motion.

Now it is certainly better organized than it was 24 hours ago. It has a definite closed low. It's just very broad. It does have a really good mid level vorticity going right on the NE coast of the Yucatan where some of the convection is firing. This is where I suspect the LLC will tuck later tonight when the convection really re-fires.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#747 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:04 pm

Typical pulsing during early formation stages

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#748 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:10 pm

If you are going to make a personal forecast like she will move west or move east ADD THE DISCLAIMER.

Moderators are having to go back and add them....warnings will be next.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#749 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:11 pm

Ivanhater wrote:Typical pulsing during early formation stages

http://www.esl.lsu.edu/webpics/AOI/AOI2_ir_loop.gif

That agrees with the post above yours. Could I please have a link to that?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#750 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:11 pm

Interesting graphic of Yucatan wind directions. This was at 15:00z

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#751 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:16 pm

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#752 Postby RL3AO » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:16 pm

You can see the consolidating center pretty well on the visible loop. Mostly thanks to the weakening convection.
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#753 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:17 pm

Here is some video I took of an outer band moving through St. Petersburg yesterday afternoon. View it full screen to see the best view of the wind and quick moving clouds.
http://youtu.be/XLbVbBrWi8M
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#754 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:17 pm

Many of you remember Derek Ortt...here is his thoughts on the Pensacola News Journal

http://www.pnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl ... 2306220022
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#755 Postby tolakram » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:19 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#756 Postby OuterBanker » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:21 pm

In the meantime the trough is already in western/central NC and VA fireing off a line of tstorms. Currently the trough trails off to the wsw after the Carolinas and not into the Gulf. If it does not deepen I can't see it picking it up. Looks like loitering in the Gulf is more and more likely.
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#757 Postby psyclone » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:23 pm

RL3AO wrote:You can see the consolidating center pretty well on the visible loop. Mostly thanks to the weakening convection.

Is that a surface circulation or a MLC destined to soon fizzle with the weakening of convection? I would suspect it's the latter.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#758 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:26 pm

Intensity models are inline for a favorable environment in the Gulf

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#759 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:34 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Discussion

#760 Postby GCANE » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:37 pm

Anti-cyclone has moved out into the BOC with convection firing underneath.

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/flash-wv.html

This, IMHO, is our area to watch.

Good outflow channels present to help UL ventilation.

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/w ... oom=&time=
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