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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#441 Postby Stormlover2012 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:49 pm

lol no kidding, u cant always go by analog years
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#442 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:50 pm

That doesn't mean 94L will follow an analogue, just saying.


Thank you EM. Actually the pattern setup is very similar as to what its been so far this season. This stays weak like all the others and its a caribbean cruiser for quite some time. If by some chance it blows up and deepens a lot more than what models are showing then it could be a fish. But not betting on that.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#443 Postby christchurchguy » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:54 pm

does it look a bit like a monsoon low or gyre?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#444 Postby hurricanes1234 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:55 pm

I apologize.....I get hurt very easily. :(
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#445 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:57 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:
That doesn't mean 94L will follow an analogue, just saying.


Thank you EM. Actually the pattern setup is very similar as to what its been so far this season. This stays weak like all the others and its a caribbean cruiser for quite some time. If by some chance it blows up and deepens a lot more than what models are showing then it could be a fish. But not betting on that.

I don't think it stays weak for as long being that it is later in the season. Therefore I think it's stronger then the models presently show and further right. I see Puerto Rico for now as a likely landing spot. Remember....94L hasn't even reached 40 Longitude yet.
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#446 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:59 pm

FutureEM wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:The pattern does not favor a Gulf Coast track. All of the good analogue storms for this invest hit the East Coast or went out to sea between the USA and Bermuda.


That doesn't mean 94L will follow an analogue, just saying.

That may be true, but the pattern does not favor a Gulf coast storm. It favors the East Coast. Go take a look at some of the analogues.

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#447 Postby Hurricane Andrew » Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:10 pm

Anyone think they may renumber at 11?
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#448 Postby ROCK » Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:53 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:Anyone think they may renumber at 11?



IMO, it depends if it can sustain convection. Not much there currently....I do think that it will be named before the islands so all those guys can be on alert.

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#449 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:59 pm

Yep might have to go ahead and wait tomorrow for the next D-Max. I tell ya though, it just has that "look" doesn't it?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#450 Postby MGC » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:00 pm

I doubt 94L gets designated a TD at 11pm. Convection near the center has diminished a bit due to the strong convection to the south of the circulation that may have cut off the moisture feed to the developing low to the north. Once that convection collapses more moisture should be available to sustain convection near the center.....it should take off then......MGC

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#451 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:09 pm

MGC wrote:I doubt 94L gets designated a TD at 11pm. Convection near the center has diminished a bit due to the strong convection to the south of the circulation that may have cut off the moisture feed to the developing low to the north. Once that convection collapses more moisture should be available to sustain convection near the center.....it should take off then......MGC

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Convection will sustain better as it tracks west with the waters warming down the road.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#452 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:11 pm

latest visible loop

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#453 Postby Zanthe » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:14 pm

Hurricane Andrew wrote:Anyone think they may renumber at 11?


I highly doubt it. It needs more convection, and I personally don't foresee it happening. Even if there's a big blow up of convection, it'd have to be sustained for it to become a TD. I think the soonest the system could be classified is sometime, mid day tomorrow.
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#454 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:15 pm

TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:
FutureEM wrote:
TropicalAnalystwx13 wrote:The pattern does not favor a Gulf Coast track. All of the good analogue storms for this invest hit the East Coast or went out to sea between the USA and Bermuda.


That doesn't mean 94L will follow an analogue, just saying.

That may be true, but the pattern does not favor a Gulf coast storm. It favors the East Coast. Go take a look at some of the analogues.

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When you say east coast you also mean florida?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#455 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:15 pm



Is it me or is this going south of due west at the moment

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#456 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:17 pm

Hurricaneman wrote:


Is it me or is this going south of due west at the moment

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It appears that the mid level circulation moved SW, but I'm not sure if this is from shear blowing it off, or the LLC, such that it is, drifting south.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#457 Postby cycloneye » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:30 pm

This is the preliminary thinking by NHC about where the system may be in 72 hours.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#458 Postby BatzVI » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:31 pm

At this point, how safe is it to say that this will stay south of the USVI/PR area? Seems it is staying on a westerly course. Does anyone see anything that could possibly bring this system more north?
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#459 Postby gatorcane » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:31 pm

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A fairly brisk westward track through the Central/Northern Leewards through the Caribbean to around the longitude of Hispaniola/Jamaica area looks likely where the system should remain around tropical storm status due to the presence of SAL and the brisk forward speed. Then it does look like a weakness will exist over the Bahamas/Florida/GOM by this time next week as the Western Atlantic ridge weakens some and retreats to the east. This weakness looks more pronounced than when Ernesto and ex-TD7 moved through prior. A weak system would continue heading more WNW but slower towards the Northern Yucatan...a stronger system should respond to the weakness and move slowly NW or even North. I am leaning towards the latter scenario at this time looking at the latest GFS 18Z 500MB steering, the latest GFS ensemble guidance, and the trough that the 12Z ECMWF shows over Eastern North America by early next week. I also expect conditions to be more favorable for intensification once the system nears the longitude of Jamaica in the Western Caribbean that will allow the system to deepen enough to respond the weakness.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 94L

#460 Postby tolakram » Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:33 pm

BatzVI wrote:At this point, how safe is it to say that this will stay south of the USVI/PR area? Seems it is staying on a westerly course. Does anyone see anything that could possibly bring this system more north?


I would say too early to tell, and way too close to be sure of anything. If I lived in the islands I would be finalizing any preparations not already made. Better to be safe than sorry. This could be anything from a thundershower passing by to a Hurricane, just too early to tell at the moment.


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