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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1101 Postby JPmia » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:30 pm

Wx_Warrior wrote:According to that set up, how further west do you think Isaac can go?


well based on the current run it goes inland around the Appalachicola area.. btw, I'm not sure of the intensity on the GFS at that moment, but landfalling major hurricanes are rather rare in the Big Bend region of Florida.

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#1102 Postby Jevo » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:30 pm

Either way this scenario doesn't bode well for the Keys.. Dirty side of the storm in the Keys and metro dade/broward...

There is a better shot of the CONUS landfall at 138 and 141

18z GFS +138 SW Dade County / Upper Keys

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18z GFS +141 Inland over the Everglades encompassing Dade, Broward, and Lee counties

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1103 Postby bamajammer4eva » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:30 pm

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#1104 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:31 pm

Pretty safe to say at this point that a Florida Peninsula or Panhandle landfall are the biggest bets. But stay tuned!
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1105 Postby Jevo » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:32 pm

bamajammer4eva wrote:Landfall Tallahassee

http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-p ... L&hour=177


3rd or 4th landfall... lets not forget about our friends in Haiti, Cuba, or South Florida
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#1106 Postby SeminoleWind » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:32 pm

either way would be a pretty big rain and tornado threat up through Florida for a few days.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1107 Postby Meteorcane » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:33 pm

Really how well this thing is able to skirt the major islands will be very interesting as it can probably be the difference between a Cat.3 cane and a low end cane/strong T.S. when/if it comes reenters water (assuming it survives).
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1108 Postby MGC » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:39 pm

Wonder when the gulfstream is going to fly? Once that data gets fed to the models to determine the strength/position of the Bermuda ridge, we'll have a much better idea where Isaac will end up. I just hope this don't turn into another Ivan with the models trending left with every run......MGC
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1109 Postby JPmia » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:41 pm

:uarrow: I heard this Thursday
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1110 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:41 pm

MGC wrote:Wonder when the gulfstream is going to fly? Once that data gets fed to the models to determine the strength/position of the Bermuda ridge, we'll have a much better idea where Isaac will end up. I just hope this don't turn into another Ivan with the models trending left with every run......MGC


I believe I read where they will fly on Thursday. I could be wrong though, it might be tomorrow. I know they flew the plane to Barbados.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1111 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:42 pm

Word is gulfstream is on thursday.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1112 Postby SouthDadeFish » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:43 pm

MGC wrote:Wonder when the gulfstream is going to fly? Once that data gets fed to the models to determine the strength/position of the Bermuda ridge, we'll have a much better idea where Isaac will end up. I just hope this don't turn into another Ivan with the models trending left with every run......MGC


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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1113 Postby weatherSnoop » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:44 pm

Jevo wrote:
bamajammer4eva wrote:Landfall Tallahassee

http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-p ... L&hour=177


3rd or 4th landfall... lets not forget about our friends in Haiti, Cuba, or South Florida

Not to mention, Tallahassee is inland
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1114 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:46 pm

Hard to go against the gfs thus far this season, god can't believe i just said that :lol: Strength wise will lean more towards the Euro right now. Hard to go against what the season has been like so far. Yea I know things change but lets see what the eastern carib will prove. The only thing I can see that could change with the GFS runs is the strength of the se us/bahamas ridge. Think it will build in more towrds the west and somewhat stronger than shown thus push Isaac further west in future runs. Of course this only is my opinion so we will see what happens.
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#1115 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:47 pm

With all those missions, by Friday night the NHC should have a pretty darn good handle on the synoptic patterns and how they will influence Isaac.
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#1116 Postby KBBOCA » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:51 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:With all those missions, by Friday night the NHC should have a pretty darn good handle on the synoptic patterns and how they will influence Isaac.


Are this many missions normal? Sorry if the question is a silly one, I don't follow recon so closely, but this seems like a lot of missions for a storm that's still so far from the U.S.? Has the research budget been beefed up, or is the frequency of flights any indication of how seriously this threat is viewed?
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#1117 Postby SunnyThoughts » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:54 pm

KBBOCA wrote:
SunnyThoughts wrote:With all those missions, by Friday night the NHC should have a pretty darn good handle on the synoptic patterns and how they will influence Isaac.


Are this many missions normal? Sorry if the question is a silly one, I don't follow recon so closely, but this seems like a lot of missions for a storm that's still so far from the U.S.? Has the research budget been beefed up, or is the frequency of flights any indication of how seriously this threat is viewed?


I'm no expert so I honestly don't know the true answer to your question, but I have an idea it has to do with how serious they think the threat is with a system. Just my opinion, like I said I have no way of knowing for sure.
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#1118 Postby JPmia » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:57 pm

SunnyThoughts wrote:
KBBOCA wrote:
SunnyThoughts wrote:With all those missions, by Friday night the NHC should have a pretty darn good handle on the synoptic patterns and how they will influence Isaac.


Are this many missions normal? Sorry if the question is a silly one, I don't follow recon so closely, but this seems like a lot of missions for a storm that's still so far from the U.S.? Has the research budget been beefed up, or is the frequency of flights any indication of how seriously this threat is viewed?


I'm no expert so I honestly don't know the true answer to your question, but I have an idea it has to do with how serious they think the threat is with a system. Just my opinion, like I said I have no way of knowing for sure.


I think that is about right.. by Friday we will have the various recon missions included in model runs and we will be near the 72 hour window where NHC forecasts becomes very accurate
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1119 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:58 pm

Word is gulfstream is on thursday.
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#1120 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:59 pm

recon data will be imputed for tonight's 00z model runs.
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