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#6261 Postby galaxy401 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:53 pm

Isaac looks much better than yesterday. The best it looks so far. Wonder if this is the start of RI some of the models are seeing.

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6262 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:56 pm

If you stare long enough at this loop you'll go blind. :)

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~rabin/goes14/loop_srso.html

I'll let you all make the conclusions.
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#6263 Postby EBrads146 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:57 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:I may be wrong but I believe the first signs of an eye may be showing up on vis now.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... is_floater


I think this is instead a combination of dry air entrainment and shadows from the afternoon sun. While I have no doubt that Isaac is strengthening, I humbly think an eye is a bit premature.

However, to cover all my bases, is there a recent microwave pass over the center?
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#6264 Postby JamesCaneTracker » Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:58 pm

195200 2541N 08635W 8411 01474 //// +170 //// 286072 073 053 007 01
195230 2540N 08635W 8421 01466 //// +179 //// 284073 074 051 006 01
195300 2539N 08636W 8405 01484 //// +181 //// 284072 072 050 005 01
195330 2538N 08637W 8413 01478 //// +185 //// 284070 072 048 006 01
195400 2537N 08638W 8408 01486 //// +181 //// 286071 072 050 006 01
195430 2536N 08639W 8413 01482 //// +174 //// 287069 070 048 007 01
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#6265 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:01 pm

What do 74 knot FL winds equate to?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6266 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:02 pm

EBrads146 wrote:
cheezyWXguy wrote:I may be wrong but I believe the first signs of an eye may be showing up on vis now.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... is_floater


I think this is instead a combination of dry air entrainment and shadows from the afternoon sun. While I have no doubt that Isaac is strengthening, I humbly think an eye is a bit premature.

However, to cover all my bases, is there a recent microwave pass over the center?

Could well be. Like I said, I could be wrong. I checked again and a new frame came in, it really is hard to say but it does look like a minor lowering to me and it is circular. A baby step in the right direction, but like I said I could be wrong. This is has been a rather complicated storm.

And yeah Id love to see a microwave too, or a radar image but its too far from land for that.
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#6267 Postby gwynne » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:02 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:What do 74 knot FL winds equate to?


about 85mph
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#6268 Postby Time_Zone » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:02 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:What do 74 knot FL winds equate to?


Supports 70-75 MPH At the surface assuming it's not contaminated.
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#6269 Postby JamesCaneTracker » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:03 pm

I'm not sure if it's a .9 or .8 conversion

A .9 conversion would equal 66kts. However SFMR readings were only in the 50kt range...
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#6270 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:03 pm

I meant surface winds. I think that may be enough to upgrade to 75mph at 5pm. It's borderline but they may go ahead and do it given the proximity to land and expected further strengthening.
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#6271 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:03 pm

If Isaac is moving off to the NW, then the weakest winds should be in the SW quadrant. However, recon found by far the strongest winds there. How does this make sense???
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#6272 Postby galaxy401 » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:04 pm

FL winds equate to about 60-65 knots. That and the SMFR are 58 leads to believe it's currently at 60 knots right now.
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#6273 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:05 pm

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#6274 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:07 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:If Isaac is moving off to the NW, then the weakest winds should be in the SW quadrant. However, recon found by far the strongest winds there. How does this make sense???



Ws just going to say this. Very odd. Possible that this section could lead to more convection and pul the eye towards this region?>
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#6275 Postby capepoint » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:08 pm

SouthDadeFish wrote:If Isaac is moving off to the NW, then the weakest winds should be in the SW quadrant. However, recon found by far the strongest winds there. How does this make sense???



If that's true, it could be indicative of a tropical storm that is not all that well organized......

could have also been just a heavy area of t-storm winds or some other interaction...
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#6276 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:08 pm

Pressure dropping, but the winds just won't spin up.

Just too big to get going?
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#6277 Postby Shuriken » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:08 pm

tolakram wrote:If you stare long enough at this loop you'll go blind. :)

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~rabin/goes14/loop_srso.html

I'll let you all make the conclusions.

That is unabashedly cool -- I hope someone is collecting the whole day's sequence and makes them available.
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#6278 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:08 pm

Perhaps the heavier convection lead to the stronger flight level winds?

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#6279 Postby Time_Zone » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:09 pm

Looks like we should have Hurricane Isaac
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6280 Postby BigA » Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:10 pm

Most recent pressure per dropsonde is 982 mb, with an 11 kt wind, so probably in 981-982 range. Winds often take a few hours to catch up, especially with larger storms.
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