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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1401 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:23 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
thetruesms wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:[quote="mcheer23"]NHC doesn't believe in the west bend...just yet.



still outside the 5 day forecast. they will have to 12z tomorrow if the models keep the west turn.
Yup, this. NHC gets to put off the big decision a just a little bit longer.


they love doing that :)[/quote]

Do you think they will start the west bend at the 5am advisory?

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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#1402 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:23 pm

I thought the updated GFS run came out at 11:00 am I wrong.
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1403 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:23 pm

I wouldn't start getting excited about this one until after it crosses Hispaniola.
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#1404 Postby Gustywind » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:24 pm

Be safe and dry all islanders! Be on your guard as Chantal seems to come in our way.
Gustywind :)
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#1405 Postby Stormlover2012 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:25 pm

Rolling now!!
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#1406 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:25 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:I thought the updated GFS run came out at 11:00 am I wrong.



The 0z GFS should be running here in the next 5-10mins
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#1407 Postby lester » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:25 pm

Miami Storm Tracker wrote:I thought the updated GFS run came out at 11:00 am I wrong.


It comes out at 11:30 pm ET
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1408 Postby CourierPR » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:25 pm

I would think that at what point any west turn takes place would be determined by the strength of the building high pressure. How strong is that rebuilding high pressure going to be?
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#1409 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:26 pm

lester wrote:
Miami Storm Tracker wrote:I thought the updated GFS run came out at 11:00 am I wrong.


It comes out at 11:30 pm ET



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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1410 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:27 pm

CourierPR wrote:I would think that at what point any west turn takes place would be determined by the strength of the building high pressure. How strong is that rebuilding high pressure going to be?


according to the models its going to be a significant ridge.
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#1411 Postby ROCK » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:28 pm

its already updating.....

here is the 0Z NAM....

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/Imageanis.php
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#1412 Postby meriland23 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:28 pm

Storm seems slightly weaker than earlier..

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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1413 Postby thetruesms » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:29 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:they love doing that :)
I must confess, I find it hard to blame them sometimes. With my primary focus, the really important stuff is in the 0-12 hour frame, and I'm usually pretty confident in my forecasts. Stuff beyond that for the next week or two is just, "Hey, give us a heads up for some general stuff, and we're happy if you're in the ballpark".

Well, then seasonal stuff gets important again and I tie myself up in knots trying to do a good job on it.

But, circling back to the relevant topic, bringing Chantal to a landfall is not an insignificant part of the forecast, and I can definitely sympathize with trying to get as confident in a scenario as possible before committing.
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#1414 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:29 pm

This is storm track I think Chantal could very well end up duplicating. But instead of turning north into Pensacola the Bermuda high will keep pushing her further west.

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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#1415 Postby ROCK » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:31 pm

12hrs GFS

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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#1416 Postby ROCK » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:32 pm

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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1417 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:32 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
CourierPR wrote:I would think that at what point any west turn takes place would be determined by the strength of the building high pressure. How strong is that rebuilding high pressure going to be?


according to the models its going to be a significant ridge.



I wonder if we could see a WSW motion as she heads for the coast... guess it all depends on just how strong the ridge is.
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#1418 Postby Miami Storm Tracker » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:37 pm



Does not seem to move that far in 10 hours, if it's still going 26 mph.
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1419 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:39 pm

thetruesms wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:they love doing that :)
I must confess, I find it hard to blame them sometimes. With my primary focus, the really important stuff is in the 0-12 hour frame, and I'm usually pretty confident in my forecasts. Stuff beyond that for the next week or two is just, "Hey, give us a heads up for some general stuff, and we're happy if you're in the ballpark".

Well, then seasonal stuff gets important again and I tie myself up in knots trying to do a good job on it.

But, circling back to the relevant topic, bringing Chantal to a landfall is not an insignificant part of the forecast, and I can definitely sympathize with trying to get as confident in a scenario as possible before committing.



Makes perfect sense. Anything in science requires and series of small predictions then you set out to verify all the while keeping the ultimate goal in mind. in the case of weather though its out of our hands on try to verify a prediction/theory... just have to wait and see.
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Re: ATL: CHANTAL - Models

#1420 Postby bamajammer4eva » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:43 pm

Does the GFS factor in weakening from land interactions?
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