Wikipedia writers?

[RL3AO]

Wasn't really looking for it. Just replying to Aric. Plus I don't need too much help finding stuff on wiki. I'm quite familiar with it.

[TropicalAnalystwx13]

Hate to rekindle this flame...not really.

I've never agreed with removing the section. It's very useful to the weather community.

But there is no source for the actual ACE value for individual storms.

Its called use the given formula, cite it, and make the simple calculation. That is NOT original research! In the science community, that would be considered review and not new research (you're not using the ACE formula for a calculation that is not widely used... ACE is widely used)

If that is considered wrong, the Wiki TC project is a bunch of Pharisees... more worried about the rules than worried about providing the best service. It mkaes as little sense as does the NWS directive to not use wind data to determine tornado wind speeds

I didn't say anything about original research. I just said that we don't have a source for the individual values.

We don't need one if WP:CALC applies (states that a source is not needed if the calculations needed are basic), which it does.

[Hurricanehink]

Let's get back on topic. There's still a need for writers. If anyone is interested, feel free to let us know.

[Meow]

I am a Wikipedia writer, also called Meow. I have rewritten Typhoon Megi (2010), Cyclone Gafilo, Typhoon Jangmi (2008), Typhoon Damrey (2012), and Typhoon Jelawat (2012). I also have contributed many high-resolution pictures from NASA with a strict name.

Some remarkable pictures:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... _0515Z.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... _0245Z.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... -09-01.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... _0235Z.jpg

[somethingfunny]

I'm not much of a Wikipedia editor, but I figured I should let y'all know that I spotted some errors while searching for historical major hurricane landfalls along Florida's East Coast. For example, it lists Elena and Katrina as Category 3's striking Florida, and includes Frances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fl ... hurricanes

[Hammy]

looks like for Frances somebody got the kts and mph values confused...

[somethingfunny]

looks like for Frances somebody got the kts and mph values confused...

Ah! It happens. I believe the list is missing Dora from 1964 (hit Jacksonville) as well. This kind of information comes in handy when people start asking why all the major hurricanes have been missing Florida's East Coast recently. If I'm not mistaken, since 1950, only King, Dora, Betsy, Andrew, and Jeanne (and Donna if you include the Keys) have struck Florida from the east as Category 3 or higher. It's less common than many believe, although a buffet line of them struck in the 1940s.

[Hammy]

Was Isbell in 1964 a 2 or 3 in Florida? I've seen (both official in fact) different answers on it.

[somethingfunny]

Until the reanalysis project reaches the 1960s, this "preliminary tropical cyclone report" released on December 17 1964 will have to be the official word on Isbell:

http://docs.lib.noaa.gov/rescue/hurrica ... h81964.pdf

...And it is quite inconclusive. The first quote is merely an operational bulletin issued and archived, and the second quote is from the single-page summary written a few months later, and only lists official ground observations which are frequently not representative of the storm's maximum winds:

ISBELLS INTENSITY HAS REMAINED ABOUT THE SAME DURING THE PAST FEW HOURS AND HIGHEST WINDS ARE ESTIMATED 100 TO 125 MPH OVER A SMALL
AREA NEAR THE CENTER. THE INTENSE PORTION OF THE HURRICANE IS VERY SMALL AND THE DESTRUCTIVE WINDS ARE CONFINED TO THE WALL CLOUD
AREA IMMEDIATELY AROUND THE EYE. THE BROAD ARC OF THE LEADING EDGE IS APPROACHING THE THOUSAND ISLANDS AREA NORTHWEST AND SOUTH
OF EVERGLADES CITY.
AT 3 PM EST THE CEmER OF HURRICANE ISBELL WAS NEAR LATITUDE 25.6 NORTH LONGITUDE 81.6 WEST OR ABOUT 30 MILES SOUTHWEST OF
EVERGLADES CITY AND 90 MILES WEST OF MIAMI. IT IS MOVING ON A SLIGHTLY ZIGZAG PATH TOWARD THE NORTHEAST AT ABOUT 15 MPH.

The center of Hurricane Isbell entered Florida near Everglades City at 4:lO p.m. EST October 14th and
exited in the Jupiter-Juno Beach area 9 p.m. of the same day. This represented a northeastward movement
averaging 23 mph while over southern Florida. The center passed some 47 miles to the northwest of Miami
where peak gusts were 63 mph and the lowest pressure 29.54 inches. Highest winds were near 90 mph along
both Florida coasts with the lowest pressure at Juno Beach, 28.88 inches, and at Jupiter 28.95 inches.

Given that the NHC lists "100-125 mph", my speculation is that sustained winds were in the 100mph Cat2 range, while some gusts up to 125mph may have been recorded by the reconnaissance plane, but that's just my hunch.

[Hammy]

So apparently the NHC doesn't seem any more certain than I am.

[Yellow Evan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Isbell_1964_track.png

it's a 3

[Hurricane_Luis]

Let's get back on topic. There's still a need for writers. If anyone is interested, feel free to let us know.

Just made an account on Wikipedia username same as it is here (Hurricane Luis). Been looking for spelling mistakes in articles and updating current storm info.. I'd be happy to help further.

[somethingfunny]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Isbell_1964_track.png

it's a 3

This thread is discussing the difficulties in finding accurate sources to use for Wikipedia articles and you used Wikipedia as a source to answer the discussion?

I went to the map you linked, followed it back to the Hurricane Isbell article, then followed the source for its' intensity, and guess what that noaa.gov webpage ( http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/ush ... 512007.txt ) says?

1964 Oct FL, SW2, SE2 2 974 ----- Isbell

[Yellow Evan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Isbell_1964_track.png

it's a 3

This thread is discussing the difficulties in finding accurate sources to use for Wikipedia articles and you used Wikipedia as a source to answer the discussion?

I went to the map you linked, followed it back to the Hurricane Isbell article, then followed the source for its' intensity, and guess what that noaa.gov webpage ( http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/ush ... 512007.txt ) says?

1964 Oct FL, SW2, SE2 2 974 ----- Isbell

That map is based off of HURDAT, all maps are. Or at least the old pre-2013 version of the database.

[supercane4867]

I made a new colorful image for Hurricane Nora(1997) replaced the original blurry one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Nora_(1997)

[Yellow Evan]

I made a new colorful image for Hurricane Nora(1997) replaced with the original blurry one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Nora_(1997)

Thanks.

[supercane4867]

I made a new colorful image for Hurricane Nora(1997) replaced with the original blurry one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Nora_(1997)

Thanks.

My goal is to make large colorized images for every pacific hurricanes that still lack one.

Here are newly made images of Odile(1990) and Kevin(1991)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hurricane_Odile(1990).jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hurricane_Kevin(1991).jpg

[Yellow Evan]

I made a new colorful image for Hurricane Nora(1997) replaced with the original blurry one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Nora_(1997)

Thanks.

My goal is to make large colorized images for every pacific hurricanes that still lack one.

Here are newly made images of Odile(1990) and Kevin(1991)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hurricane_Odile(1990).jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hurricane_Kevin(1991).jpg

Well, that's physically impossible. Once you get into the 1970's, all you have is black and white images. And prior to midway through the 1961 PHS, you have 0 images

[supercane4867]

Well, that's physically impossible. Once you get into the 1970's, all you have is black and white images. And prior to midway through the 1961 PHS, you have 0 images

Add Remark: for the ones with available HURSAT data

[Hurricane_Luis]

How do you make those Hurricane Tracking maps? Like these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:01S_1986_track.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Walte ... _track.png