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Re: Tropical Wave in Central Atlantic (Pouch 25L) 10% / 20%

#441 Postby cycloneye » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:34 am

Yellow circle added and is at 10%.


SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE LOCATED ABOUT 1000
MILES EAST OF THE LESSER ANTILLES REMAINS LIMITED. DEVELOPMENT...IF
ANY...WILL BE SLOW TO OCCUR DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS WHILE
THE WAVE MOVES WESTWARD AT ABOUT 15 MPH AND APPROACHES THE LESSER
ANTILLES. AFTER THAT TIME...UPPER-LEVEL WINDS COULD INHIBIT FURTHER
DEVELOPMENT. THIS SYSTEM HAS A LOW CHANCE...NEAR 10 PERCENT...OF
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS...AND A LOW
CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 5 DAYS.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Central Atlantic (Pouch 25L) 10% / 20%

#442 Postby ouragans » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:03 am

cycloneye wrote:Yellow circle added and is at 10%.

really? :grr: after 5 days in their extended outlook, keeping people waiting, they could have been at least able to locate that yellow area. They updated the image 3 times, and no yellow circle! :x

This 5-days outlook must remain experimental, it has no meaning

EDIT: 4 updates to add the yellow area at 8:00!!! :lol:
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Re: Tropical Wave in Central Atlantic (Pouch 25L) 10% / 20%

#443 Postby Gustywind » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:08 am

ouragans wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Yellow circle added and is at 10%.

really? :grr: after 5 days in their extended outlook, keeping people waiting, they could have been at least able to locate that yellow area. They updated the image 3 times, and no yellow circle! :x

This 5-days outlook must remain experimental, it has no meaning

EDIT: 4 updates to add the yellow area at 8:00!!! :lol:

That's a great observation Ouragans :cheesy: :), that's make sense IMO. Anyway, let's continue to monitor it.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Central Atlantic (Pouch 25L) 10% / 20%

#444 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:09 am

The euro still shows some organization in the vorticity plots and what I term a splotch of lower pressure. Since the euro has gone from showing absolutely nothing to something I can understand the need to pay attention. At 96 hours the euro stalls this vorticity, then shoots it almost due north and ends up in this position. Odd.

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Re: Tropical Wave in Central Atlantic (Pouch 25L) 10% / 20%

#445 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:13 am

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#446 Postby Gustywind » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:21 am

Cycloneye could we have the latest sat pic for Pouch 25L? Thanks. :)
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#447 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:30 am

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/sal/splitE/movies/splitE5.html

This 5-day SAL loop shows that there was alot of SAL mixing in with the general circulation of 25L over the last few days. The latest pictures suggest that this SAL has mixed out which might allow for convection to form.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Central Atlantic (Pouch 25L) 10% / 20%

#448 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:33 am

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Re: Tropical Wave in Central Atlantic (Pouch 25L) 10% / 20%

#449 Postby hurricanes1234 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:38 am

As of now, I just don't see this developing. Nearly everything will inhibit development, the only thing favourable is warm water. Of course, there's the exceedingly dry air and Sahara dust everywhere, and the wind shear will soon increase, so it seems questionable to me how something could develop when the air is sinking and blowing in different directions. Does anyone else agree? Of course, this is just an ameteur opinion.

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#450 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:01 am

There is still some magic dust to the north and west of this TW as seen on the visible satellite this morning, it may not be the problem down the road but the GFS forecasts yet another ULL near Hispaniola/PR that shreds it apart as the TW approaches it.
The GFS has been doing a good job with these ULLs.
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#451 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:07 am

06Z FIM spins it up at 168 hours. Though it keeps pushing back development so not sure how believable this is

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#452 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:28 am

On this visible satellite pix you can clearly see a ring of the magic dust possibly getting entrained into the circulation from the western quadrant.

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#453 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:38 am

NDG wrote:On this visible satellite pix you can clearly see a ring of the magic dust possibly getting entrained into the circulation from the western quadrant.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b245/ ... 44fd44.jpg

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/salmain.php?&prod=splitE&time

Much less and getting less all the time as shown on the 5 day loop.
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#454 Postby Alyono » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:57 am

gatorcane wrote:06Z FIM spins it up at 168 hours. Though it keeps pushing back development so not sure how believable this is

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1426/m6bc.png


looks like a strong open wave on the FIM... no west winds
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Re: Tropical Wave in Central Atlantic (Pouch 25L) 10% / 20%

#455 Postby Sanibel » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:37 am

Too Weak
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#456 Postby northjaxpro » Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:56 am

Yeah, I just don't see this developing. Too much dry air entrained into the system. The same old story for 2013 continues for the tropical Atlantic basin, which is that is it as dead as a doorknob.
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Re: Tropical Wave in Central Atlantic (Pouch 25L) 10% / 20%

#457 Postby tolakram » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:04 am

I don't know if this is a usable metric or not, but looking at the 500-300mb relative humidity it sure seems like these values should be higher in the tropics.

from the 6Z GFS

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/gfstc2.cgi?time=2013082906&field=500-300mb+Mean+RH&hour=Animation
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#458 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:43 am

This system looks a little better, but still limited convection

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#459 Postby HurricaneDREW92 » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:10 am

Hurricaneman wrote:This system looks a little better, but still limited convection

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Think they should bump up the 5 day development chances to 30% at 2pm.
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#460 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:19 am

HurricaneDREW92 wrote:
Hurricaneman wrote:This system looks a little better, but still limited convection

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Think they should bump up the 5 day development chances to 30% at 2pm.


I completely disagree until the GFS comes onboard with the other models that it should stay at 20% in 5 days

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