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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#401 Postby TJRE » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:42 pm

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ATL: TEN - Models

#402 Postby HouTXmetro » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:45 pm

NHC seems to agree with this system taking its time before landfall. That would allow more time for the Ridge to open up and a more northward track.
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#403 Postby fendie » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:50 pm

MaineWeatherNut wrote:
davidiowx wrote::uarrow:

Yes it is, and it appears they have very little confidence in the track as well, given the size of uncertainty.


They have no control over that. It does a loop there over several days which makes it look like there is larger area of uncertainty. It's all calculated based on their track record of forecasting over the last 10 years or so. They don't increase it or decrease it based on if their not sure about the forecast.


Correct. The cone is forecasted to 406 miles in diameter 4 days out.

Edit: At least that is what was posted here: http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=114938

Can also see NHC website: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/aboutcone.shtml (Note: 177 nautical mile radius ~ 406 mi diameter)
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#404 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:51 pm

Plenty of warm TCHP to tap into as it moves slowly.

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Re: ATL: TEN - Models

#405 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 4:57 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:NHC seems to agree with this system taking its time before landfall. That would allow more time for the Ridge to open up and a more northward track.


To let you know that I moved this post that was in the models thread to here. :)
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#406 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:14 pm

I think there is some serious bust potential in terms of intensity, but I'm glad I'm not the one making that first forecast.
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#407 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:24 pm

Question to any of our pro mets. Will 90E in EPAC have an effect on TD 10 on track or intensity if it organizes into a TC?

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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#408 Postby hurricanes1234 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:28 pm

The conditions in this area appear to be very favourable, according to the discussion, and many people said so previously. Does anyone think that 60 mph may be a little conservative? What are the odds of this passing Category 1 status, or even becoming a major hurricane?

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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#409 Postby Portastorm » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:32 pm

hurricanes1234 wrote:The conditions in this area appear to be very favourable, according to the discussion, and many people said so previously. Does anyone think that 60 mph may be a little conservative? What are the odds of this passing Category 1 status, or even becoming a major hurricane?

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If you go back a few pages on this thread, you'll see a lot of comment (including some from pro mets) where folks believe the current NHC *may* be a bit too conservative.
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Re: ATL: TEN - Models

#410 Postby wxman57 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:55 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:NHC seems to agree with this system taking its time before landfall. That would allow more time for the Ridge to open up and a more northward track.


That's not looking likely. Euro and GFS have the ridge fairly firmly set over SE TX and LA through early next week. At most, it might be able to make landfall midway between Tampico and Brownsville. That may be far enough to give south Texas some rain, but not Houston.
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Re: ATL: TEN - Models

#411 Postby Nikki » Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:57 pm

wxman57 wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:NHC seems to agree with this system taking its time before landfall. That would allow more time for the Ridge to open up and a more northward track.


That's not looking likely. Euro and GFS have the ridge fairly firmly set over SE TX and LA through early next week. At most, it might be able to make landfall midway between Tampico and Brownsville. That may be far enough to give south Texas some rain, but not Houston.



Houston won't see any rain from TD10? What about the coastal areas?
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#412 Postby jeff » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:19 pm

cycloneye wrote:Plenty of warm TCHP to tap into as it moves slowly.

http://oi40.tinypic.com/29esvx2.jpg

There is less potential down there than I would have thought.
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#413 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:26 pm

Agree Jeff. Can you imagine if that very warm TCHP in NW Caribbean is in GOM?
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#414 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:28 pm

Alyono wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:Not odd with what euro showed


if you use EC for intensity, you will fail every single time

To add further to this, the ECMWF may be having problems with the interaction between TD 10 and Invest 90E. The model shows 90E becoming the dominant feature which seems unlikely given its large and broad nature. Not only that, but the ECMWF initializes with one clear, concise low pressure area which isn't the case.

I maintain a strong Category 1 landfall just north of Tampico on Monday afternoon. We'll have to see how it goes though.
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#415 Postby Time_Zone » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:29 pm

jeff wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Plenty of warm TCHP to tap into as it moves slowly.

http://oi40.tinypic.com/29esvx2.jpg

There is less potential down there than I would have thought.


A lot more then in say 2010 when Karl was there.
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#416 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:37 pm

SUMMARY OF 700 PM CDT...0000 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...19.7N 93.7W
ABOUT 165 MI...270 KM ENE OF VERACRUZ MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...35 MPH...55 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 5 MPH...7 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1003 MB...29.62 INCHES
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#417 Postby HurriGuy » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:39 pm

http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2013091218/gfs_apcpn_watl.html

Have no fear residents of Texas! Y'all look to be the focal point throughout the month of September dealing with rain!
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#418 Postby HurricaneDREW92 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:47 pm

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#419 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:49 pm

I think we could wake up to an impressive system in the morning. Overall banding is improving by the hour.
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Re: ATL: TEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#420 Postby HurricaneDREW92 » Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:52 pm

My Amateur Track for TD 10:

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Peaks at minimal Cat 3, moisture pulled up into Texas :D :D :D :wink: :wink:

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