ATL: KAREN - Remnants - Discussion

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#781 Postby deltadog03 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:15 pm

euro never makes it onshore to LA…it gets kicked East toward MOB-PNS *WEAK though* seems like that is becoming the more likely solution.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#782 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:18 pm

I measure 3hr movement to 331 degrees at 9 kts. Plane found 35kt winds in NW quadrant. Probably 45 maybe 50 kts max to NE currently. Plane should head there soon. Definitely weaker than this morning.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#783 Postby ConvergenceZone » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:19 pm

wxman57 wrote:I measure 3hr movement to 331 degrees at 9 kts. Plane found 35kt winds in NW quadrant. Probably 45 maybe 50 kts max to NE currently. Plane should head there soon. Definitely weaker than this morning.



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#784 Postby Sanibel » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:21 pm

Gulf dry air knocks it right back.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#785 Postby jhpigott » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:23 pm

It appears 2013 strikes again
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#786 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:25 pm

Pressure is dropping slowly still...
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#787 Postby xironman » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:30 pm

I was about to post the same thing on the pressure, don't know if it is a diurnal thing.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#788 Postby Frank P » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:31 pm

There appears to be more convection trying to build around the core... mostly on the eastern half... so I don't think it is getting any worse and in fact it might be starting somewhat of a comeback atm... my opinion only..
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#789 Postby stormlover2013 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:31 pm

it looks horrible compared to this morning!!!!
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#790 Postby windnrain » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:32 pm

Pressure is indeed still dropping, not usually a sign of a weakening system.
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#791 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:33 pm

I think the storm itself is strengthening, but the shear has sent all the convection away, making an appearance of a weakening system.
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#792 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:35 pm

pressure down 3 mb
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#793 Postby xironman » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:36 pm

Actually I thought it looked worse this morning. The 850 circulation had discontented and headed NE when the LLC was over land. Now at least it has a chance to build a vertically stacked system.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#794 Postby Frank P » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:38 pm

xironman wrote:Actually I thought it looked worse this morning. The 850 circulation had discontented and headed NE when the LLC was over land. Now at least it has a chance to build a vertically stacked system.


I thought it looked worse to this morning.. did just spit out an outflow boundary however on the outer northern most area...
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#795 Postby tolakram » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:44 pm

Full 30 frame live visible, speed up for full effect.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=23&lon=-88&info=vis&zoom=1&width=1000&height=800&quality=95&type=Animation&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=30

My opinion is it is looking better and starting to build more convection near the center, but still obviously sheared.

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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#796 Postby fwbbreeze » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:45 pm

descent tower on the N/NW side. Trying to get its act together!
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#797 Postby tropicwatch » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:47 pm

tolakram wrote:Full 30 frame live visible, speed up for full effect.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=23&lon=-88&info=vis&zoom=1&width=1000&height=800&quality=95&type=Animation&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=30

My opinion is it is looking better and starting to build more convection near the center, but still obviously sheared.

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Agreed, I was looking at the hires and storms appear to be wrapping around the center.
http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/GANIMRM5I7S10.jpg
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#798 Postby Hammy » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:49 pm

Karen is looking terrible this afternoon. if anything the MLC and LLC continue to decouple further, and the shear is more evident then it was this morning. It may not even intensify beyond this, it probably peaked already this morning.
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#799 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:55 pm

Pressure is 1001 so it indeed has dropped.
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Re: ATL: KAREN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#800 Postby Frank P » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:55 pm

panamatropicwatch wrote:
tolakram wrote:Full 30 frame live visible, speed up for full effect.

http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/get-goes?satellite=GOES-E%20CONUS&lat=23&lon=-88&info=vis&zoom=1&width=1000&height=800&quality=95&type=Animation&palette=ir1.pal&numframes=30

My opinion is it is looking better and starting to build more convection near the center, but still obviously sheared.

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Agreed, I was looking at the hires and storms appear to be wrapping around the center.
http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/GANIMRM5I7S10.jpg



and on the most recent vis sat loops that convection continues to wrap around the core.. this system is not weakening atm.... my opinion only

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