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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#901 Postby WPBWeather » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:10 am

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blp wrote:We try to look at the other models, but the reality usually sets in that these two models are in another league. They have withstood the test of time. Once they bite onto something together and you get a few consistent runs forget about it, they don't lose.

The Ukmet is going to end up busting pretty good now but I will give it credit on the cyclogensis which it was first to pick up on.


Yeah, I was dead sure this system was forming and moving south of "the rock". Was thinking the UK was on to something because it was at least south of the other models and the trough was simply being "over-played". Furthermore, earlier on it just seemed obvious that we were simply going to see a predominance of higher latitude storms this season, especially off the S.E. US coastline and here we go. For as good as 96L looked well east of the Southern Windwards, I should have known that the MDR was still suffering from the "2013 Flu" LOL. I suppose some vindication of forecast would come from a southern end of the present wave to break off and develop in the NW Caribbean heading to the N. Gulf Coast, but that would truly be unexpected at this point. Oh well.."Forecast FAIL" on my part :roll:


Come on now. No one knows for sure about any of what you just posted. The posts here have been all over the place for the last 24 hours--as have the models.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#902 Postby wyq614 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:19 am

sunnyday wrote:The way things have been for the past couple of years, we could have all saved a lot of time by simple printing the word RECURVE and not falling for all of the model pictures showing everywhere from Texas to Bermuda as targets of a cyclone!


One reason why we love hurricane tracking is its uncertainty.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#903 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:26 am

The NEUS and New England and maybe North Carolina should keep a sharp eye out on this one due to the models saying once it turns north there is no way out to the east with the Blocking ridge to its east

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#904 Postby Jevo » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:30 am

12z GFS Initialized

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12z GFS +24

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#905 Postby Jevo » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:40 am

12z GFS +48

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12z GFS +72

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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#906 Postby JPmia » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:41 am

12z GFS shows getting more organized in the SE Bahamas and then still showing the northward movement toward the weakness near Bermuda.. GFS and ECWF have been relatively consistent the past few runs about this solution now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#907 Postby Jevo » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:04 am

12z GFS +96 Image

12z GFS +120 Image
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#908 Postby Tyler Penland » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:10 am

GFS initialization vs current CIMMS analysis. Probably won't make a difference in the long run but that's pretty dang off.

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#909 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:11 am

BS flag on GFS run

It obliterates the ridge by spontaneously forming a new low in the ridge
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#910 Postby SouthDadeFish » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:13 am

Alyono wrote:BS flag on GFS run

It obliterates the ridge by spontaneously forming a new low in the ridge


Yeah it splits off a piece of 850 mb vort from 96L and develops a new from it, which blows up the ridge. Very bizarre.
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#911 Postby tropicwatch » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:13 am

"BS Flag" Love it:)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#912 Postby Hurricaneman » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:16 am

Its the GFS bias of dropping ridges and overdoing troughs which is what its doing here so when in doubt go with the Euro on this one

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#913 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:17 am

Any models not developing 96L at all. :?:
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#914 Postby Alyono » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:19 am

Louis Ucceleni, FIX YOUR MODEL!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#915 Postby Jevo » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:22 am

12z GFS +144 - Off to the Flemish Cap...... Because that's where the fish go

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#916 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:24 am

I guess Cristobal wants a Dolly to play with? Indeed throw out the 12Z GFS. Not realistic at all.
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#917 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:26 am

CrazyC83 wrote:I guess Cristobal wants a Dolly to play with? Indeed throw out the 12Z GFS. Not realistic at all.


it's plausible. will just have another invest to watch.
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#918 Postby CrazyC83 » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:28 am

Are the upper-air forecasts for models other than the GFS available anywhere? It isn't the surface flow that will be steering it.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#919 Postby HeeBGBz » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:36 am

What is that left over in the Caribbean? Is that Dolly who's going to go play in the gulf?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 96L - Models

#920 Postby South Texas Storms » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:37 am

12z CMC still shows it hitting Miami in 108 hours.
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