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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#221 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 12:02 pm

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#222 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 12:23 pm

There is another one but is over 300 hours close to CentralAmerica.
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#223 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 12:47 pm

Remains at 0/20 on 11 AM PDT TWO.

An area of low pressure may form early next week several hundred
miles south of the coast of Mexico. Environmental conditions are
expected to be conducive for subsequent slow development of the
system.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
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#224 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 12:48 pm

cycloneye wrote:There is another one but is over 300 hours close to CentralAmerica.


It still sorta hints at the second hurricane, but doesn't do much with it.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#225 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 2:05 pm

A strong hurricane makes landfall near Cabo San Lucas on the 12z ECMWF run.
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#226 Postby Kingarabian » Sat May 23, 2015 2:49 pm

Major hurricanes this early in the season. 2010 might be challenged for most majors in the beginning of the season.
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#227 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 3:16 pm

Kingarabian wrote:Major hurricanes this early in the season. 2010 might be challenged for most majors in the beginning of the season.


2014 broke the earliest 2nd major record.
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#228 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 4:29 pm

Yellow Evan,we may only get one to form from the trio, What do you think?
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#229 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 4:49 pm

cycloneye wrote:Yellow Evan,we may only get one to form from the trio, What do you think?


90/1E is pretty much a coin flip. Flip two coin. Heads mans it won't develop and tails means it will.

The 0/20 is a sure bet and worse comes to worse, we'd get a solid Cat 1, not too common for May that hopefully weakens prior to landfall.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#230 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 5:54 pm

18z has landfall near the ECMWF area as a cat 1.
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#231 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 6:36 pm

5 PM PDT:

An area of low pressure could form early next week several hundred
miles south of the coast of Mexico. Environmental conditions are
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system while it moves west-northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
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Re: 2015 EPAC Season

#232 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 23, 2015 7:32 pm

I wonder why the models move it towards the coast instead of tracking in open waters. Because is strong goes that way or there is a break in the ridge?
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#233 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 8:03 pm

cycloneye wrote:I wonder why the models move it towards the coast instead of tracking in open waters. Because is strong goes that way or there is a break in the ridge?


Early season storms sometimes hit land, though the they often form closer to shore. Reason for the landfalls is the West Coast troughing.
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#234 Postby Kingarabian » Sat May 23, 2015 8:11 pm

cycloneye wrote:I wonder why the models move it towards the coast instead of tracking in open waters. Because is strong goes that way or there is a break in the ridge?


Yeah too strong + a break in the ridge. The Pacific is huge, and if a storm develops near Mexico a trough usually catches it. It's near 140-130W where the sub-tropical ridge stays strong and forces storms West. Early in the season and late in the season, most storms will almost always turn to the North/North East.
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#235 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 8:21 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
cycloneye wrote:I wonder why the models move it towards the coast instead of tracking in open waters. Because is strong goes that way or there is a break in the ridge?


Yeah too strong + a break in the ridge. The Pacific is huge, and if a storm develops near Mexico a trough usually catches it. It's near 140-130W where the sub-tropical ridge stays strong and forces storms West. Early in the season and late in the season, most storms will almost always turn to the North/North East.


EPAC storms in general affect land more often than giving credit for.
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#236 Postby Ntxw » Sat May 23, 2015 9:19 pm

And the pattern this spring has been troughiness generally progressing from the southwest/west moving eastward towards the southern plains. This persistent weakness likely will be a magnet for anything that forms near the Mexican coast to re-curve compared to prior years.
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#237 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 9:34 pm

Ntxw wrote:And the pattern this spring has been troughiness generally progressing from the southwest/west moving eastward towards the southern plains. This persistent weakness likely will be a magnet for anything that forms near the Mexican coast to re-curve compared to prior years.


Any years with this same kind of pattern?
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#238 Postby Ntxw » Sat May 23, 2015 10:11 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Ntxw wrote:And the pattern this spring has been troughiness generally progressing from the southwest/west moving eastward towards the southern plains. This persistent weakness likely will be a magnet for anything that forms near the Mexican coast to re-curve compared to prior years.


Any years with this same kind of pattern?


1957, 1982, and 1991 has shown up a lot at 500mb
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#239 Postby Yellow Evan » Sat May 23, 2015 10:21 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Ntxw wrote:And the pattern this spring has been troughiness generally progressing from the southwest/west moving eastward towards the southern plains. This persistent weakness likely will be a magnet for anything that forms near the Mexican coast to re-curve compared to prior years.


1957, 1982, and 1991 has shown up a lot at 500mb


1982 had a Baja hurricane, 1991 had all systems except for Ignacio stay at sea, and 1957 had a Cat 4 landfall.
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#240 Postby Yellow Evan » Sun May 24, 2015 12:55 am

An area of low pressure could form early next week several hundred
miles south of the coast of Mexico. Environmental conditions are
expected to be conducive for subsequent slow development of the
system while it moves west-northwestward to northwestward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent
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