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#1681 Postby AdamFirst » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:24 pm

HURRICANELONNY wrote:you can see the outer bands in puerto rico. fast moving showers out of the n.e.

http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar.ph ... a&loop=yes


Also on the long range radar you can see the rain shield of the new flareup over the Antilles
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#1682 Postby OuterBanker » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:29 pm

As always recon will be interesting. Will they find a relocated center north and aligned. I kinda wished this morning that it would stay west and die just like Erika in 2009 (almost the exact same position and projected path). Even the date is close. . And Dennis also died on a west path. But, again this afternoon she has seemed to rally. She seems to move to critical care every evening and rally. Someone needs to pull the plug. Labor day week is coming up and we don't need anything to scare away the tourists.
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#1683 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:29 pm

Hot tower firing directly over the LLC (or one of them). Erika is getting her act together... She heard all of you who were writing her off...
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#1684 Postby SunnyThoughts » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:31 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:Hot tower firing directly over the LLC (or one of them). Erika is getting her act together... She heard all of you who were writing her off...



I believe there is a plane in there now, or will be shortly. Hopefully we will get an idea if she is indeed getting her act together.
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#1685 Postby AdamFirst » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:32 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:Hot tower firing directly over the LLC (or one of them). Erika is getting her act together... She heard all of you who were writing her off...


It was unrealistic to expect degeneration so abruptly. It is a stronger circulation and much larger than Danny's ever was. Danny was essentially a soda can going into an industrial shredder
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#1686 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:36 pm

convection building to the north of the center for the first time,
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#1687 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:39 pm

Erika is on the brink of intensifying.
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#1688 Postby USTropics » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:39 pm

That is essentially the main difference between Erika and Danny. Erika has such a large swath of convection to work with that she's able to spit out multiple vortices at the low level despite the shear. Once Danny's main LLC was disrupted it was unable to sustain any convection due to his small size.
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#1689 Postby gatorcane » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:41 pm

new track:

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#1690 Postby Hammy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:41 pm

If nothing else, the slower movement has brought a halt to the self-induced shear.

Edit: Interesting that there is no mention of the Euro in the 5pm discussion.
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#1691 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:43 pm

Slight shift to the west.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1692 Postby ozonepete » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:44 pm

Looks like it could be ready for take-off. Mid-level RH really good and shear dropping noticeably. And when you see a TS building good convection over the LLC during DMIN, look out.

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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1693 Postby Sanibel » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:46 pm

ozonepete wrote: And when you see a TS building good convection over the LLC during DMIN, look out.






Not a system you would want to see get into open waters on a track to Florida.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1694 Postby fci » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:48 pm

Nederlander wrote:While not historically a big fan, TWC is actually doing a really good job of explaining in detail all of the variables at play with Erika. Even going so far as to explain the llc/mlc trouble she has been having. They also explained the new convection popping near the llc as a sign of organization along with shear developments. At any rate I thought I'd give credit where credit is due. Bryan Norcross was giving the breakdown and explained some of the more complicated aspects in layman's terms.


After John Hope was gone from TWC I think they struggled although Steve Lyons was pretty good with some real misses though (Jeanne).
When they use "staff" as experts they are weak.
Bryan Norcross is a pro, an expert and awesome.
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#1695 Postby NDG » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:48 pm

Based on the radar I have the LLC centered at 16.6N & 63.3W
Convection trying to wrap around the LLC.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1696 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:48 pm

ozonepete wrote:Looks like it could be ready for take-off. Mid-level RH really good and shear dropping noticeably. And when you see a TS building good convection over the LLC during DMIN, look out.

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adding to that,,,


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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1697 Postby ozonepete » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:48 pm

Sanibel wrote:
ozonepete wrote: And when you see a TS building good convection over the LLC during DMIN, look out.



Not a system you would want to see get into open waters on a track to Florida.


Exactly. Although I forgot to mention that obviously land interaction will be critical. Sometimes they go over PR with little disruption, but sometimes not. Hard to forecast.l
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#1698 Postby Hammy » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:49 pm

I do have to make a correction about the swirl not being the LLC: as per Google Earth, apparently that was an upper air mission (the one ongoing) that showed easterly winds south of the swirl, and likely the beginning stages of western outflow.
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Re: ATL: ERIKA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#1699 Postby Blown Away » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:50 pm

From 5pm Disco... Because of the marginal upper-level wind environment and potential
interaction with land over the next few days, there is unusually
high uncertainty in the forecast intensity, especially at days 3 to
5.


Crazy, intensity models are weak TS to Cat 5... All over the place...
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#1700 Postby psyclone » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:52 pm

that's yet another forecast cycle showing a slow grind up the east coast of fl as a hurricane...not a comforting thought for east coasters..
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