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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2341 Postby South Texas Storms » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:01 pm

It sure has been a while since the state saw a widespread heavy rain event. The latest models aren't showing much for the next week either. I'm optimistic that we will see a cool and wet spring though.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2342 Postby Brent » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:24 pm

Ntxw wrote:
Brent wrote:Its really strange to me too I'm from alabama and February may be slightly better than January but January had its share of events too *shrugs*


Southeast/gulf best climo is middle to late January. Feb is a little better for the I-20 corridor from Dallas to Atlanta. But in general the southern plains (Texas plains and Oklahoma) blizzards are most frequent in March. OKC NWS has some info on that.

All that though, it would be nice to at least see some snow showers or something in January it just eases the waiting game. The longer we wait we're also fighting the climo/sun game...


I should add in most of Alabama the snow records were set from a storm in mid March you may have heard of before :P so... But its much more uniform over there when you look at snow climo for January through March.

But yeah it would be nice to see a big rain event if nothing else... Ever since the eastern blowtorch broke down after Christmas its been so different with the storms here weak and moisture starved.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2343 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:57 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:It sure has been a while since the state saw a widespread heavy rain event. The latest models aren't showing much for the next week either. I'm optimistic that we will see a cool and wet spring though.


We'll be fine in the rain department long term. We've seen these dry spells not able to sustain, there's no backbone to them in the broad scale. There isn't a drought signal, with the slower weakening of El Nino and likely neutral by summer the STJ will remain in place for most of this year. It's not until the La Nina (should one occur) matures that drought could settle in which won't be until late this year or 2017. And the +PDO looks to remain the rest of 2016.

I just hope the tornado season won't be as active or deadly this year as was last year in N Texas. We didn't have a Jarrell like 1997 but it was spread over several outbreaks many involving too many deaths.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2344 Postby South Texas Storms » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:40 pm

0z GFS finally shows a some interesting weather for Texas. Deep trough moving across the state early next week that brings snow from DFW down into the Hill Country with widespread rain across south, central, and east Texas.

As the run goes out further (around 228 hours), snow falls as far south as Victoria and Houston with 1-2 inches across Harris County!
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2345 Postby GRAYSONCO.WX » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:53 pm

Could the low on Thursday produce any wintry weather for northern/northeastern Texas? Looks interesting at the very least.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2346 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:02 am

Maybe sneaky pattern? Quietly big snows are showing up in the mid atlantic this week perhaps surprise train coming? Wxman57 has been joking showing us snow maps from the longer range but maybe its a sign things are trying to crawl up on us.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2347 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:03 am

Looks like widespread heavy snow for Texas next Tuesday. Snow down to Houston in the 6Z GFS run. Next run will probably predict record warmth next week... Euro shows nothing across Texas for the same time period, with mid to upper 40s in the Houston area when the GFS shows snow.

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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2348 Postby Portastorm » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:07 am

:uarrow:

But if it predicted record warmth for a run or two I'm sure you'd be buying. :wink:

Meanwhile I find myself in the uncomfortable yet necessary position of defending the last two GFS runs. A storm of that nature would coincide quite well with the analogs which CPC has been touting for days ... and something our friend srainhoutx shared with us a few days back. The Euro does have a deeper trough rolling through the Southern Plains at the same time ... but enough other differences to mute any type of headline-grabbing storm.

Yes the odds are that the 12z GFS will probably show something else entirely but we shouldn't be too surprised if it keeps "honking" about a Texas/Southern Plains winter storm early next week.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2349 Postby Ralph's Weather » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:14 am

While it may not be true Arctic air the past couple mornings (26 and 28) have been pretty chilly.
The GFS did a pretty good job of sniffing out this past storm so maybe we can get something fun next week. I do fully expect a storm like that this season though it is more likely in February. Like others have mentioned big snows are rare in Texas in January.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2350 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:29 am

Portastorm wrote::uarrow:

But if it predicted record warmth for a run or two I'm sure you'd be buying. :wink:

Meanwhile I find myself in the uncomfortable yet necessary position of defending the last two GFS runs. A storm of that nature would coincide quite well with the analogs which CPC has been touting for days ... and something our friend srainhoutx shared with us a few days back. The Euro does have a deeper trough rolling through the Southern Plains at the same time ... but enough other differences to mute any type of headline-grabbing storm.

Yes the odds are that the 12z GFS will probably show something else entirely but we shouldn't be too surprised if it keeps "honking" about a Texas/Southern Plains winter storm early next week.


I wonder who is feeding the GFS its data?
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2351 Postby srainhoutx » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:39 am

wxman57 wrote:
Portastorm wrote::uarrow:

But if it predicted record warmth for a run or two I'm sure you'd be buying. :wink:

Meanwhile I find myself in the uncomfortable yet necessary position of defending the last two GFS runs. A storm of that nature would coincide quite well with the analogs which CPC has been touting for days ... and something our friend srainhoutx shared with us a few days back. The Euro does have a deeper trough rolling through the Southern Plains at the same time ... but enough other differences to mute any type of headline-grabbing storm.

Yes the odds are that the 12z GFS will probably show something else entirely but we shouldn't be too surprised if it keeps "honking" about a Texas/Southern Plains winter storm early next week.


I wonder who is feeding the GFS its data?
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All those planes full of people heading to Hawaii to escape the cold. :P
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2352 Postby horselattitudesfarm » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:21 am

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DonWrk wrote:Seems like just the other day we were talking about exciting times coming up for us and now we're almost in no hope mode.

I never really bought into that. Fear was always that majority of cold was heading east not south.

I live east and haven't seen much of it here either.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2353 Postby horselattitudesfarm » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:28 am

On another note, I see lake Travis is only 3.5 feet down and has been slowly creeping upwards. Would love to see it actually get to pool.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2354 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:48 am

horselattitudesfarm wrote:
hriverajr wrote:
DonWrk wrote:Seems like just the other day we were talking about exciting times coming up for us and now we're almost in no hope mode.

I never really bought into that. Fear was always that majority of cold was heading east not south.

I live east and haven't seen much of it here either.


00Z Euro indicates about 8" of snow for Ashville Friday. 6Z GFS has only a few inches there.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2355 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:17 am

Our little disturbance middle of this week will be a blizzard in the mid Atlantic. Washington DC frenzy. Euro Ens lays snows from Texas to the mid atlantic, don't know about Texas (longer range) but mid atlantic will be this week
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2356 Postby TheProfessor » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:22 am

The 12z GFS shifted a bit to the north giving me close to 6 inches of snow, but it looks like a Clipper system could screw me out of a major winter storm later this week. :x
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2357 Postby Ntxw » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:41 am

In other news, the El Nino has not weakened much since its peak. It's been outpushing the models for a rapid decline while warm waters and wwb's are still sloshing in the Pacific. We may not come out of this Nino until mid summer. A wet spring ahead is very likely again.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2358 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:44 am

Until it is a week a way, then I start gathering my money to buy into it. Until then, nahh...I just keep running my mileage and trying to get my dissertation finished. :)
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2359 Postby hriverajr » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:18 pm

12Z GFS kills the snow for central and southeast texas. Stil shows a rather potent trough moving through.
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Re: Texas Winter 2015-2016

#2360 Postby wxman57 » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:25 pm

hriverajr wrote:12Z GFS kills the snow for central and southeast texas. Stil shows a rather potent trough moving through.


Wow! I never expected that. Big snow event for the East Coast Friday/Saturday, though.
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