2016 EPAC Season

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#221 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:33 am

Seems like the GFS prefers development in the GOM.

One of these model have to give in.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#222 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jun 22, 2016 8:35 am

I am leaning towards development in the EPAC instead of GOM/Caribbean side
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#223 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:09 pm

Yellow Evan,12z Euro weaker with the development.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#224 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:36 pm

:uarrow: ECMWF seems to be very erratic over the timing of this future system. Support is strong from the ECMWF/UKMEt and the EPS ensembles, but has zero support from the GFS/GEFS.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#225 Postby Yellow Evan » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:18 pm

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#226 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:44 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 PM PDT THU JUN 23 2016

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

An area of low pressure is expected to form during the weekend well
to the southwest of the southern tip of the Baja California
peninsula. Some slow development of the low is possible by early
next week as the system moves westward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#227 Postby Kingarabian » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:54 pm

CMC really wants to make up for a lackluster June. Shows 4-6 storms in 240 hours lol.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#228 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:31 am

0z GFS actually has an EPAC storm around day 9 that was previously in the GOM.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#229 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:35 am

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ABPZ20 KNHC 240502
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TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1100 PM PDT THU JUN 23 2016

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

An area of low pressure is expected to form during the weekend well
to the southwest of the southern tip of the Baja California
peninsula. Some slow development of the low is possible by early
next week as the system moves westward.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#230 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:49 am

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 AM PDT FRI JUN 24 2016

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

An area of low pressure is expected to form late this weekend
well to the southwest of the southern tip of the Baja California
peninsula. Some slow development of this system is possible by
early next week while the low moves to the west or west-northwest
at about 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#231 Postby HurricaneRyan » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:36 am

When was the last time no storms formed during May or June?
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#232 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:41 am

HurricaneRyan wrote:When was the last time no storms formed during May or June?


1969.

Never in the reliable record.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#233 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:11 pm

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#234 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:31 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 PM PDT FRI JUN 24 2016

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

A broad area of low pressure has formed about 1100 miles southwest
of the southern tip of the Baja California peninsula. Environmental
conditons are expected to become somewhat conducive for slow
development of this system early next week while the low moves to
the west or west-northwest at about 10 mph.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#235 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:28 pm

That system the Euro is showing near 140W has support from the CMC. Euro has also been pretty persistent about it.

Thinking we need a tag for that area.

Also GFS has another system becoming a hurricane in the long range. Something to watch for.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#236 Postby RL3AO » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:48 pm

Its worth noting that storms very rarely form in the western part of the EPAC during June. This system has climatology fighting it.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#237 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:55 pm

RL3AO wrote:Its worth noting that storms very rarely form in the western part of the EPAC during June. This system has climatology fighting it.


Agreed.

Euro also shows marginal upper level conditions as well.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#238 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:07 pm

Kingarabian wrote:That system the Euro is showing near 140W has support from the CMC. Euro has also been pretty persistent about it.


Is that not the 10/30 area?
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#239 Postby Kingarabian » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:16 pm

Yellow Evan wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:That system the Euro is showing near 140W has support from the CMC. Euro has also been pretty persistent about it.


Is that not the 10/30 area?



Yeah it is.

We need a yellow marker for that hurricane it's been showing though.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#240 Postby Yellow Evan » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:33 pm

Kingarabian wrote:
Yellow Evan wrote:
Kingarabian wrote:That system the Euro is showing near 140W has support from the CMC. Euro has also been pretty persistent about it.


Is that not the 10/30 area?



We need a yellow marker for that hurricane it's been showing though.


Agreed, given the ECMWF is developing this closer and closer to the 5 day timeframe.
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