2016 EPAC Season

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#381 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:27 am

0%-60%

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
500 AM PDT WED JUN 29 2016

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

A broad area of low pressure is expected to form south of the Gulf
of Tehuantepec later this week in association with a westward-moving
tropical wave that is currently located south of Guatemala.
Environmental conditions are forecast to be conducive for gradual
development of the disturbance, and a tropical depression could
form over the weekend while the system moves generally westward or
west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph, remaining well offshore of the
coast of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#382 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:52 am

0z ECMWF basically has the first storm absorbing the second one. It's lost.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#383 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:00 am

NHC goes up to 60% IMO going ahead with GFS.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#384 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:10 am

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#385 Postby tolakram » Wed Jun 29, 2016 7:46 am

Wasn't the GFS consistently better in the EPAC last year?
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#386 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:04 am

Big reminder that both models had significant upgrades and we haven't seen how well they handle genesis in the epac.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#387 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:46 am

tolakram wrote:Wasn't the GFS consistently better in the EPAC last year?


Nah, the ECMWF was (better with genesis, handled Dolores, Hilda, Guilermo, kilo, Loke, Ignacio, and Nora better just to name a few), with the exception of Patricia where it unerdid it's intensity big time.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#388 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:30 am

12z GFS continues with the cat4/5 scenario.924 mbs at 174 hours.

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#389 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:38 am

The lowest pressure was 919 mbs.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#390 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:44 am

Here is what awaits the Hurricane proyected to move thru. :eek:

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#391 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jun 29, 2016 11:48 am

Quite a battle of the model heavyweights - the GFS and ECMWF. The GFS has a CAT 4/5 while the ECMWF shows the low getting absorbed into another low and becoming only a tropical storm in the long-range. One of these models is going to bust big-time.

Looking at what the NHC is tracking, there just isn't much convection there at all. Also there is a low further west around 95W longitude that is quite defined in the SAT loops that this system could end up competing with. So I wouldn't be surprised if the GFS is far too bullish and we see something closer to the ECMWF here but let's see.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#392 Postby Ntxw » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:06 pm

Very robust CCKW will be overhead this weekend.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#393 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:12 pm

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#394 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:22 pm

Now let's see what the 12z run of ECMWF has.Hopefully a little more clarity from the various lows it had in past runs.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#395 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 29, 2016 12:47 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1100 AM PDT WED JUN 29 2016

For the eastern North Pacific...east of 140 degrees west longitude:

A broad area of disturbed weather has developed in association
with a tropical wave several hundred miles south of the Gulf of
Tehuantepec. A low pressure system is expected to form later this
week, and environmental conditions are forecast to be conducive for
a tropical depression to develop over the weekend while the system
moves generally westward or west-northwestward at 10 to 15 mph,
remaining well offshore of the coast of Mexico.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent
* Formation chance through 5 days...medium...60 percent

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#396 Postby Yellow Evan » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:36 pm

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12z ECMWF through day 6.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#397 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:39 pm

12Z ECMWF looks to deepen starting day 7, stronger this run.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#398 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:39 pm

ECMWF is at 12z run with the same GFS low but weaker.
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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#399 Postby gatorcane » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:44 pm

12Z ECMWF 192 hours, down to 993MB:

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Re: 2016 EPAC Season

#400 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Jun 29, 2016 1:55 pm

12z Euro has a 985mb hurricane @ 216hrs.

Looks like there is another system developing behind it!

Looks like the Euro is caving towards the GFS after all.

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