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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#501 Postby floridasun78 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:48 pm

if not mistaking Levi say their no real low with this wave maybe weak low
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#502 Postby floridasun78 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:49 pm

i feel models over doing this wave their over doing their done bad with 99l
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#503 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:54 pm

This should not be surprising. Most models including the Euro show very little until it reaches the Bahamas in 3-4 days. Its not expected to much of anything until that point.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#504 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:03 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#505 Postby Javlin » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:07 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:Still looking good on MIMIC-TPW

http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/mimic-tpw/natl/main.html


MIMIC showing a run N of the Islands?looking at the water pattern?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#506 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:09 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if this takes a similar path to Andrew in 1992 but obviously weaker

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#507 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:21 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:This should not be surprising. Most models including the Euro show very little until it reaches the Bahamas in 3-4 days. Its not expected to much of anything until that point.


That is true. Don't expect much of an increase in organization for another 3-4 days, at least.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#508 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:24 pm

wxman57 wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:This should not be surprising. Most models including the Euro show very little until it reaches the Bahamas in 3-4 days. Its not expected to much of anything until that point.


That is true. Don't expect much of an increase in organization for another 3-4 days, at least.


Are you still thinking a recurve once in the Bahamas?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#509 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:28 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:This should not be surprising. Most models including the Euro show very little until it reaches the Bahamas in 3-4 days. Its not expected to much of anything until that point.


That is true. Don't expect much of an increase in organization for another 3-4 days, at least.


Are you still thinking a recurve once in the Bahamas?


Well, I'm not so sure about the recurve. That ridge may be too strong. I don't expect much development east of Florida if it does cross the peninsula, though. Maybe a TS. If it gets in the Gulf it may strengthen quickly.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#510 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:28 pm

It looks like convection is going up where the highest surface vorticity is and seems like D-MAX is going to do wonders for this to help it organize

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#511 Postby TropicalAnalystwx13 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:30 pm

Invest 99L's large size has made it more resilient to an environment that would have killed a cyclone like last year's Danny 10 times over. The air is dry, but shear is low to moderate, so there is no reason to expect 99L will just dissipate as it continues west-northwest, perhaps passing north of the Caribbean Sea. In the longer range, I agree with a majority of modelling that 99L will develop into a tropical cyclone. We can deal with intensity later, but guidance has come into good agreement that ridging is too dominant and anything that forms will head west into the Gulf of Mexico.

The GFS has been performing awfully these past few days, and its forecasts for 99L seem just as awful. We'll see though. I don't ever 100% discount any solution.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#512 Postby USTropics » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:33 pm

This will be the third straight night where we've seen convection start to pulse around this time. This is a typical pattern of large, broad circulations in less then ideal conditions.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#513 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:36 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
That is true. Don't expect much of an increase in organization for another 3-4 days, at least.


Are you still thinking a recurve once in the Bahamas?


Well, I'm not so sure about the recurve. That ridge may be too strong. I don't expect much development east of Florida if it does cross the peninsula, though. Maybe a TS. If it gets in the Gulf it may strengthen quickly.


Thanks 57. We can deal with a weak TS down here in SFla with no problems.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#514 Postby AdamFirst » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:36 pm

Keeping a close eye on this one. I'm currently on vacation in Pennsylvania with my folks - I'm staying up here until after Labor Day but my folks are scheduled to fly back on Sunday to Fort Lauderdale.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#515 Postby floridasun78 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:43 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:
Are you still thinking a recurve once in the Bahamas?


Well, I'm not so sure about the recurve. That ridge may be too strong. I don't expect much development east of Florida if it does cross the peninsula, though. Maybe a TS. If it gets in the Gulf it may strengthen quickly.


Thanks 57. We can deal with a weak TS down here in SFla with no problems.

i hope that too only td or weak ts not hurr
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#516 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:45 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
Bocadude85 wrote:
Are you still thinking a recurve once in the Bahamas?


Well, I'm not so sure about the recurve. That ridge may be too strong. I don't expect much development east of Florida if it does cross the peninsula, though. Maybe a TS. If it gets in the Gulf it may strengthen quickly.


Thanks 57. We can deal with a weak TS down here in SFla with no problems.


Personally Id think for us in SFL it can go either way with that rocket fuel in the Bahamas A strengthening TS or minimal hurricane.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#517 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:07 pm

What happened earlier I think is with the shear the dry air came back into the system but seems to be mixing that out and with low shear may maintain and may even reform a circulation from the same area that had a previous circulation

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#518 Postby Socalhurcnegirl227 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:23 pm

if fionas remnants or it stays as a TD into florida, and 99L comes on as a weak TS wouldnt there be the possibility of intermingling energy at all and helping develop the system?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#519 Postby beoumont » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:38 pm

Someone mentioned Elena 1985 as a possible analogy to the current 99l invest. Below is 1st part of NHC preliminary report:

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Re: ATL: INVEST 99L - Discussion

#520 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:44 pm

Now that is the type of convective action we need. Its a sign of much stronger low level inflow and in general environment becoming more conducive. recon may find something tomorrow if this can maintain overnight.
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