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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5161 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:42 am

they just passed through that vort as of right now.. have to wait for next set but likely farther south..
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5162 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:45 am

Center is somewhere west of the red X. Thats where recon was and they haven't quite found it yet.

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5163 Postby HurriGuy » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:48 am

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Well ECMWF initialization won't even be close from this little bit of info
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5164 Postby HurriGuy » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:49 am

Bingo
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5165 Postby Alyono » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:50 am

Center is exposed and the pressure has risen from the evening.

This is not organizing. Very good news indeed. Think the chances of this becoming a hurricane are lower
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5166 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:51 am

Found wind shift at 23.600N 86.400W
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5167 Postby HurriGuy » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:52 am

panamatropicwatch wrote:Found wind shift at 23.600N 86.400W


this has become badly exposed
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5168 Postby SeGaBob » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:54 am

I don't see how it would be...
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5169 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:54 am

soo 23.3n 86.2w....and not that well defined.. Bet down near 22.5m and 85.5 they will find another vort..
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5170 Postby MississippiWx » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:55 am

Poorly organized for now, but can't take for granted what a slight decrease in shear will allow to happen.

I'm amazed at how far south and west it keeps moving.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5171 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:55 am

Still considerably southwest of previous position. Break out the oiji boards.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5172 Postby chaser1 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:56 am

I can almost make a case for a COC appearing directly over the Westernmost tip of Cuba. Now, it may be surface... it may be mid level, heck it may be a giant toilet in the sky but I'll say this much - it's essentially the only thing I do see spinning!
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5173 Postby HurriGuy » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:56 am

Aric Dunn wrote:soo 23.3n 86.2w....and not that well defined.. Bet down near 22.5m and 85.5 they will find another vort..



I am seeing winds from the north on RGB down below 23N....
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5175 Postby MississippiWx » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:58 am

chaser1 wrote:I can almost make a case for a COC appearing directly over the Westernmost tip of Cuba. Now, it may be surface... it may be mid level, heck it may be a giant toilet in the sky but I'll say this much - it's essentially the only thing I do see spinning!


Fairly easy to tell where the center is on RAMMB Visible. http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis/online/loop.asp?data_folder=tropical/tropical_ge_4km_visir2_floater_2&width=640&height=480&number_of_images_to_display=12
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5176 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:58 am

MLC is where all the convection is, can't help but think a new surface low forms down there with the pressure at this center now risen.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5177 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:59 am

chaser1 wrote:I can almost make a case for a COC appearing directly over the Westernmost tip of Cuba. Now, it may be surface... it may be mid level, heck it may be a giant toilet in the sky but I'll say this much - it's essentially the only thing I do see spinning!


just like earlier its quite likely there is still a vort there.. just have to wait and see.. wind field seems to suggest it.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5178 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:00 am

Alyono wrote:http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/windmain.php?&basin=atlantic&sat=wg8&prod=midshr&zoom=&time=

BIG TIME mid level shear


Might have gotten north of the anti-cyclone again. What a system.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5179 Postby RL3AO » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:00 am

Alyono wrote:http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/windmain.php?&basin=atlantic&sat=wg8&prod=midshr&zoom=&time=

BIG TIME mid level shear


Might have gotten north of the anti-cyclone again. What a system.
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Re: ATL: NINE - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#5180 Postby HurriGuy » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:00 am

Alyono wrote:http://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/windmain.php?&basin=atlantic&sat=wg8&prod=midshr&zoom=&time=

BIG TIME mid level shear


12 knots? That cannot be the problem
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