2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1461 Postby Siker » Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:24 pm

cycloneye wrote:Is that GOM thing 92L?


Correct.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1462 Postby blp » Sun Sep 04, 2016 3:03 pm

Well hello Ukmet much stronger and develops both waves again. Euro holding strong maybe we go the other way back to development with the GFS on 18z

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1463 Postby TheStormExpert » Sun Sep 04, 2016 3:18 pm

blp wrote:Well hello Ukmet much stronger and develops both waves again. Euro holding strong maybe we go the other way back to development with the GFS on 18z

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Which one is which?
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1464 Postby Alyono » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:34 pm

nope

18Z MU shows a dead Atlantic

Dead through the believable time frame that is. Does show some things after 9 days
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1465 Postby centuryv58 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:23 pm

Not always wise to just look at a few model runs for anything definitive. True for development or no development. Just my opinion, but we have a ways to go before season close. :uarrow:
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1466 Postby Alyono » Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:56 pm

season is not over. However, we appear to have entered a lull that may last a week or two, unless 92L develops
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1467 Postby Hurricaneman » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:29 pm

Both the 0zGFS and 12zEuro develop the wave about to come off of Africa in 24hrs with the GFS taking longer to develop

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1468 Postby jason1912 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:35 pm

Looks like the 0z GFS so far has development in the MDR like the 12z euro has.
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1469 Postby wxmann_91 » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:28 am

jason1912 wrote:Looks like the 0z GFS so far has development in the MDR like the 12z euro has.


Not gonna happen. Toss it. :lol: :cheesy:
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1470 Postby Hammy » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:38 am

Alyono wrote:season is not over. However, we appear to have entered a lull that may last a week or two, unless 92L develops


This continues the similarities with 1998, even if the ACE isn't keeping pace--we had a two week lull after Danielle/Earl that year if I recall in which we had only a high-end tropical storm around the second week of September, which interestingly enough if 92L does develop could take a similar track up into Texas based on some model runs.
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2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1471 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:59 pm

18z Gfs develops a system off the coast of Africa in about 5 days and has it as a Hurricane hitting Jamaica and moving NW towards Cuba. It showed this system in previous runs but much weaker and further north in the Atlantic. I know its fantasy but just showing a few screenshots

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1472 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:34 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:18z Gfs develops a system off the coast of Africa in about 5 days and has it as a Hurricane hitting Jamaica and moving NW towards Cuba. It showed this system in previous runs but much weaker and further north in the Atlantic. I know its fantasy but just showing a few screenshots

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That track is very similar to Ivan in 2004 hopefully will be nothing like it but it seems the 0zGFS is showing something similar through 186hrs
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1473 Postby 1900hurricane » Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:45 pm

It looks like American Numerical Guidance begins to amplify an upward pulse of Madden-Julian in Phase 1 in the day 7 and beyond time frame.

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2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1474 Postby WeatherEmperor » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:01 am

00z Gfs shows development again in 5 days off Africa and ends up near western cuba moving NW.

Needs to be watched because as 1900hurricane just posted it looks like the ATL basin will have upward motion the next week or so and if that happens, dry air will not be a problem. Here are some pics

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1475 Postby wxmann_91 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:34 am

Dry air can be a problem regardless of whether the Atlantic is in a positive upward motion state or not. That said, having that upward motion may make incipient disturbances more resistant against shear or dry air. That said again, models tend to overdo this effect and over-produce TC's in the medium range when a basin transitions from a sinking to upward motion state. Just a heads-up to everyone. :)
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1476 Postby Alyono » Tue Sep 06, 2016 8:39 am

that massive cane is showing itself to be yet another MU special

Dropped like a hot potato in the 6Z
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1477 Postby TheStormExpert » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:20 am

Alyono wrote:that massive cane is showing itself to be yet another MU special

Dropped like a hot potato in the 6Z

Yep, even with the MJO looking to become more favorable as we progress through September for the Atlantic the basin very well could remain rather quiet, this season continues to surprise. :roll:

Not to mention the global models have done astonishingly horrible so far this season making it even more enjoyable of a season to track. :lol:
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1478 Postby wxmann_91 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:41 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
Alyono wrote:that massive cane is showing itself to be yet another MU special

Dropped like a hot potato in the 6Z

Yep, even with the MJO looking to become more favorable as we progress through September for the Atlantic the basin very well could remain rather quiet, this season continues to surprise. :roll:

Not to mention the global models have done astonishingly horrible so far this season making it even more enjoyable of a season to track. :lol:


Simple solution: stop watching the models... they have been useless past Day 3 this year and since it's the Atlantic... the outcome (or lack thereof) is pretty predictable. ;)
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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1479 Postby Hurricaneman » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:45 pm

Looking at the 0zGFS 500mb pattern and surface pattern even if nothing forms there its the type of setup that spawns development in the western Caribbean as it would pile up moisture there

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Re: 2016 Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to Day 16)

#1480 Postby SFLcane » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:39 am

Hmm maybe hermine was all she wrote this season. Plenty of season left but as of right now conditions are hostile just everywhere. Should be interesting couple of weeks but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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