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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9001 Postby Stormcenter » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:24 pm

This is nothing to sneeze at right now.

http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/satellite/d ... uration=12
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9002 Postby dukeblue219 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:24 pm

Not sure I saw this one posted, but the last dropsonde in the SE eyewall had 132 knot winds just 8mb above surface (~200ft?).
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9003 Postby ZX12R » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:25 pm

Raebie wrote:
davidiowx wrote:What in the world is this guy doing.


https://twitter.com/Deathbymartymar/status/784122375424004096/video/1


Being his typical drama queen self.


Meaning Shep?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9004 Postby Hammy » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:26 pm

ronjon wrote:western outer eyewall looks nasty - not far offshore WPB/Ft Laud - buckle up.

https://www.wunderground.com/weather-radar/united-states/fl/miami/amx/?region=pie


That may negate the effects of any eastward shift...
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9005 Postby Raebie » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:27 pm

ZX12R wrote:
Raebie wrote:
davidiowx wrote:What in the world is this guy doing.


https://twitter.com/Deathbymartymar/status/784122375424004096/video/1


Being his typical drama queen self.


Meaning Shep?


Yes. Shep.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9006 Postby Portastorm » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:27 pm

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I just sent a donation today as I'm sure you're burning through bandwidth with all the extra traffic.... Hope others will do the same.


I did the same yesterday, first time donation. Same reasons.


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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9007 Postby Steve » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:29 pm

davidiowx wrote:What in the world is this guy doing.


https://twitter.com/Deathbymartymar/status/784122375424004096/video/1


Fear and Balanced?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9008 Postby swampgator92 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:29 pm

It looks like the inner eyewall is collapsing and the outer might be in the process of shrinking. Interesting.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9009 Postby seahawkjd » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:29 pm

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KBBOCA wrote:Can I quickly post a non storm note and say how impressed I am with the Storm 2K servers. You guys must be getting slammed with traffic, and yet the site is operating totally smoothly.

I just sent a donation today as I'm sure you're burning through bandwidth with all the extra traffic.... Hope others will do the same.


I did the same yesterday, first time donation. Same reasons.


Sorry to clog the thread but same here. I should have been donating a long time ago considering all of the information this site has provided me over the past 13 years.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9010 Postby ZX12R » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:30 pm

Portastorm wrote:
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KBBOCA wrote:Can I quickly post a non storm note and say how impressed I am with the Storm 2K servers. You guys must be getting slammed with traffic, and yet the site is operating totally smoothly.

I just sent a donation today as I'm sure you're burning through bandwidth with all the extra traffic.... Hope others will do the same.


I did the same yesterday, first time donation. Same reasons.


Thanks very much!


I contributed late last night while I was drinking. I hope I didn't contribute thousands of dollars.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9011 Postby Cuda17 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:30 pm

CFLHurricane wrote:
bob rulz wrote:
tarheelprogrammer wrote:
Hopefully he is scaring some sense into the ones who are trying to stay. Makes sense to me.


Christ no. There's a difference between sensible warnings and absurd scaremongering. That is far into the latter.


But scaremongering is the only language the Fox News crowd understands...


DO NOT make this political! There is absolutely no place in this thread for that kind of discussion. People are getting important information from this forum regarding this very destructive storm and your post does not help!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9012 Postby lando » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:31 pm

That airport in the tip of grand bahama about to get flattend
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9013 Postby hcane27 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:32 pm

I would like for someone to explain to me how/why the westward shift will take place. I have been following the center of circulation all day and it appears to be really struggling to get enough westward motion on the present heading to make 80 west.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9014 Postby SunnyThoughts » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:32 pm

Still a lot of lightning inside that inner eye wall.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9015 Postby Rail Dawg » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:32 pm

As a Hurricane chaser I've made it to Melbourne FL and found the last indoor parking spot in the Florida Institute of Technology tall garage.

Awesome reinforced concrete stairwell and 40 ft above sea level.

Will the eye pass over? I don't know.

Going to go walk the dog. Interesting energy obviously in the air.
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9016 Postby KBBOCA » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:33 pm

Here's the FPL power outage tracking site. Surprised to already see significant numbers w/o power in Broward and PB Counties given they've not had a lot of impact yet. But then of course... it's FPL...
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9017 Postby KBBOCA » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:33 pm

Here's the FPL power outage tracking site. Surprised to already see significant numbers w/o power in Broward and PB Counties given they've not had a lot of impact yet. But then of course... it's FPL...

https://www.fpl.com/storm/customer-outages.html
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9018 Postby Hammy » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:33 pm

A bit off topic: how do you make the storm-specific NASA satellite link to link offsite? When I click it I just get this http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/post-goes

Back on topic: somebody I know lives in Titusville (western side) and while the prep-work and everything is already completed, they were wondering what sort of damage the house should expect at this point--would Charley's damage in Orlando be about right or would it be more/less than that on this track?
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9019 Postby Portastorm » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:33 pm

Rail Dawg wrote:As a Hurricane chaser I've made it to Melbourne FL and found the last indoor parking spot in the Florida Institute of Technology tall garage.

Awesome reinforced concrete stairwell and 40 ft above sea level.

Will the eye pass over? I don't know.

Going to go walk the dog. Interesting energy obviously in the air.


Keep us posted ... but please be safe, sir!
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Re: ATL: MATTHEW - Hurricane - Discussion

#9020 Postby ozonepete » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:34 pm

KBBOCA wrote:Dr. Jeff Masters posted this as a comment just a little while ago on his latest blog entry at Wunderground - explains possible effects of ERC


552. Dr. Jeff Masters , Director of Meteorology (Admin)
8:33 PM GMT on October 06, 2016
The Hurricane Hunters just found concentric eyewalls with a diameter of 75 and 12 miles. Radar data also confirms that Matthew is likely going through an eyewall replacement cycle (ERC), where the inner eyewall will collapse and be replaced by a giant outer eyewall with a diameter of 75 miles. If the inner eyewall collapses before Matthew hits Florida, the top winds at landfall might be only Category 2 strength. The down side of an ERC is that it will spread hurricane-force winds out over a larger area, increasing the storm surge. Another issue with a large radius outer eyewall is the potential for prolonged exposure to high winds on the western edge, as the storm moves northward along the coast.

I think Matthew has very little chance of increasing its winds beyond the current advisory intensity of 140 mph.

An experimental version of the SHIPS model run at 2 pm EDT predicts predicts max winds of 111, 105, 102, and 101 kts at 6, 12, 18, and 24 hrs if ERC-weakening begins now. Without the ERC, SHIPS (with inland decay if the storm hits land) predicts 121, 119, 117, and 114 kts.

Jeff Masters


I think Dr. Masters is going to turn out to be quite accurate here. The ERC appears to have started and it simply has to start weakening now. In addition, the satellite presentation is showing some degradation in the northwestern quadrant as far as loss of the solid CDO there - some dry air intrusion? We can only hope this is true since obviously it would save a lot of Florida a good deal of cat 4 damage.
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