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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#881 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:43 am

Mid-layer Troposphere continues to warm up.

Off-scale rain rate in the convection.
COD analysis shows a 2mb pressure drop in the last hour.
Vort max now up to 15.

I like the new NHC convention of PTC which is now enabling AMSU analysis before a storm is named.
Core-temp profile shown below.

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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#882 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:51 am

Surface pressure, Mid GOM buoy to the NW of the CoC

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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#883 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:02 am

Convection rapidly intensifying as indicated by the sudden drop in cloud-top tempertures.
Still a lot of shear though.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floater ... imated.gif

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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#884 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:24 am

I see the center has reformed to the nw over the last few hours...
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#885 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:30 am

Closest sounding I can find to the CoC

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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#886 Postby RL3AO » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:51 am

First light visible. Looks like the center is at least a little closer to the convection. I also suspect the first couple hours of visible imagery will let NHC name this Cindy.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#887 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:00 am

I know it can be deceiving going by just imagery with a sheared system like this, but 03L looks like it is running a bit east of NHC forecast track this morning and certainly not turning more westward per the ECM ensembles.

Speed animation way up and rock it.......http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/03L/flash-vis-long.html
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#888 Postby HurricaneBrain » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:04 am

Track continues to shift west. Image
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#889 Postby RL3AO » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:11 am

It's obviously still sheared like most June systems. It's still fun to track though. Also, notice the new deep convection firing closer to the N side of the center in the last few frames of the loop.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#890 Postby NDG » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:13 am

This is from an oil rig just to the north of the coc.

KATP (Green Canyon 78(OIL), LA, US)

Conditions at: KATP observed 20 June 2017 11:15 UTC
Temperature: 25.0°C (77°F)
Dewpoint: 24.0°C (75°F) [RH = 94%]
Pressure (altimeter): 29.62 inches Hg (1003.1 mb)
Winds: from the E (80 degrees) at 55 MPH (48 knots; 25.0 m/s)
Visibility: 0.75 miles (1.21 km)
Ceiling: 900 feet AGL
Clouds: broken clouds at 900 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 1400 feet AGL
Present Weather: BR (mist)

KATP 201115Z AUTO 08048KT 3/4SM BR BKN009 OVC014 25/24 A2962 RMK A01
Conditions at: KATP observed 20 June 2017 10:55 UTC
Temperature: 25.0°C (77°F)
Dewpoint: 24.0°C (75°F) [RH = 94%]
Pressure (altimeter): 29.62 inches Hg (1003.1 mb)
Winds: from the E (80 degrees) at 47 MPH (41 knots; 21.3 m/s)
gusting to 56 MPH (49 knots; 25.5 m/s)

Visibility: 2.00 miles (3.22 km)
Ceiling: 1400 feet AGL
Clouds: broken clouds at 1400 feet AGL
broken clouds at 5500 feet AGL
overcast cloud deck at 10000 feet AGL
Present Weather: BR (mist)
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#891 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:16 am

There is definitely some funky re structureing of the llc this morning. There are multiple kinks in the low level cloud structure.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#892 Postby RL3AO » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:17 am

Nice view of the strong tower going up north of the center this morning.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#893 Postby RL3AO » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:20 am

Aric Dunn wrote:There is definitely some funky re structureing of the llc this morning. There are multiple kinks in the low level cloud structure.

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Still looks like two main vorticies rotating southward and around the broad region of rotation.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#894 Postby SouthDadeFish » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:21 am

Aric Dunn wrote:There is definitely some funky re structureing of the llc this morning. There are multiple kinks in the low level cloud structure.


I was just about to comment on this. The low-level structure looks pretty elongated N-S this morning, with multiple eddies embedded within a broader circulation. It's possible the recent bursts of convection to the north are trying to generate a new low-level vorticity maximum closer to the convection. As of now, it's your usual sloppy June Gulf TC :lol:

Remember, don't pay attention to just the center location. Most of the bad weather and rain extends hundreds of miles to the east of any center of circulation:

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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#895 Postby NDG » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:21 am

The system has been moving more NNW than NW during the night, IMO.
Looking at the visible satellite pix like Aric said there are multiple eddys still rotating around, I estimate the COC near 25.7N & 90.2W.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#896 Postby caneman » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:30 am

In addition, looking at water vapor as of right now, I don't see how Texas gets this or any meaningful rainfall. Looks like Lousiana to Fl. Panhandle will get hammered with rain. Things can still change. Typical sloppy June system
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#897 Postby NDG » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:31 am

Zoomed in loop.

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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#898 Postby GCANE » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:35 am

NDG wrote:Zoomed in loop.

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That one hot-tower is shooting out some serious cirrus 8-)
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#899 Postby sphelps8681 » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:38 am

Texas is still in the cone and yes things can change. But as of right now we still have models projecting a path our way. The rain over to the east is the most important aspect of this storm but if my location which could get a direct hit I would still experience strong winds and rain which can do damage as well.
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Re: ATL: THREE- Potential Tropical Cyclone

#900 Postby dexterlabio » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:40 am

Very 2016 Colin.
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