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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6861 Postby Macrocane » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:45 pm

newtotex wrote:
Doesn't the NHC have this as a CAT 4 at landfall?


Yes but the NHC intensity forecast has been conservative since Irma reached major hurricane status, they had it weakening before reaching the lesser Antilles in the first forecasts. I'm not saying they are doing a bad job, it's just that intensity forecasts are still hard to do.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6862 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:45 pm

5pm track is right up the spine of the Peninsula.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6863 Postby znel52 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:46 pm

newtotex wrote:
supercane4867 wrote:
floridasun78 wrote:could this stay as cat 5?

It's probably going to stay as a CAT5 all the way to landfall if that occurs in Florida.


Doesn't the NHC have this as a CAT 4 at landfall?


Yes this is true but forecasts don't always end up being right. They never forecast this thing to be a 185mph monster for 2 days straight and we know how that went. Just best to be prepared.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6865 Postby HurricaneBelle » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:47 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:5pm track is right up the spine of the Peninsula.


If its spine is displaced to the right.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6866 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:47 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:5pm track is right up the spine of the Peninsula.


that good in the sense it will weaken faster. The coast track would have kept the major hurricane for winds all the way up the coast.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6867 Postby KBBOCA » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:48 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6868 Postby floridasun78 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:51 pm

ok no forecast got staying as cat 5
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6869 Postby jasons2k » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:53 pm

Exalt wrote:I do have to add, however, that it's been pretty interesting to see such seamless eyewall contractions and expansions, something I've never really seen before in hurricanes, even Patricia was undergoing a regular EWRC. Scary however that these monsters can simply expand their wind field without much if any of a hit to strength at all..


You are correct. Irma is breaking all sorts of rules and will be studied for years.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6870 Postby Patrick99 » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:55 pm

Exalt wrote:
newtotex wrote:
supercane4867 wrote:It's probably going to stay as a CAT5 all the way to landfall if that occurs in Florida.


Doesn't the NHC have this as a CAT 4 at landfall?


Keywords being IF that occurs in Florida.

If Irma does in fact hit Cuba, then yes, it's most likely that it will weaken enough to be a Cat 4 at landfall. However, if it stays north and the CDO and eye avoid landmasses, then there is no reason for it to not be a Cat 5.


How long is this going to remain a Cat 5? This is absolutely ridiculous....even most WPAC storms don't do this.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6871 Postby SNOW_JOKE » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:56 pm

Jose now at CAT3
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6872 Postby ronyan » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:56 pm

floridasun78 wrote:ok no forecast got staying as cat 5


You have to remember that forecasts of intensity are generally not that accurate. You should not assume this won't be a category 5 especially given it's history so far and conditions ahead of it. Also, most news forecasts just repeat NHC.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6873 Postby jasons2k » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:57 pm

SNOW_JOKE wrote:Jose now at CAT3


There's a thread for that too.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6874 Postby KBBOCA » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:57 pm

I imagine a lot of people have already thought of this, but a very good prep tip from Dr. Knabb:

 https://twitter.com/DrRickKnabb/status/905885945727201280




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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6875 Postby MetroMike » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:57 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:5pm track is right up the spine of the Peninsula.


that good in the sense it will weaken faster. The coast track would have kept the major hurricane for winds all the way up the coast.

Can't count on that, Irma is breaking all the rules
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6876 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:58 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:5pm track is right up the spine of the Peninsula.


that good in the sense it will weaken faster. The coast track would have kept the major hurricane for winds all the way up the coast.


Yes. Day 4 intensity forecast is 80 knots.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6877 Postby KBBOCA » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:59 pm

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6878 Postby MetroMike » Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:59 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:5pm track is right up the spine of the Peninsula.


that good in the sense it will weaken faster. The coast track would have kept the major hurricane for winds all the way up the coast.


Yes. Day 4 intensity forecast is 80 knots.

I don't buy that.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6879 Postby RL3AO » Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:00 pm

At this point it is VERY LIKELY a category 4 or 5 hurricane larger than Andrew will make landfall in South Florida.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#6880 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:01 pm

MetroMike wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:5pm track is right up the spine of the Peninsula.


that good in the sense it will weaken faster. The coast track would have kept the major hurricane for winds all the way up the coast.

Can't count on that, Irma is breaking all the rules


if its over land it will weaken.. that is certain..
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