ATL: IRMA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10141 Postby Jevo » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:21 pm

Watching my GRLevel3 like a hawk for the last 45-60mins and she is darn near stationary... maybe a slight NNW drift

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10142 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:21 pm

KWT wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:pressure 930 in the minobs lets see what the dropsonde says.. that over 10 mb on the minobs alone since the flight arived.


Looks like Irma this time is spreading the winds rather than concentrating it, kind of similar to Ike in 2008 after it crossed Cuba. Probably good with regards to not getting extreme winds but it will mean the wind swathe will be huge.

will likelt be the case unless that inner eyewall collapses than it can RI>
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10143 Postby westcoastnative » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:22 pm

Some live cam links for Key West. Don't know how long they'll work, of course.

Marathon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaErEed7UPI
Mallory Square https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUwIkt56IIQ
Southern Most Beach Resort https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCwj35OwmI
Key West Seaport https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYEXQdUFha8
"Two Friends Rooftop" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGD1byu7gJc
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10144 Postby floridahurricaneguy » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:22 pm

With Irma being near stationary, would that lead to a more easterly or westerly shift in her track?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10145 Postby KWT » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:24 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
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Aric Dunn wrote:pressure 930 in the minobs lets see what the dropsonde says.. that over 10 mb on the minobs alone since the flight arived.


Looks like Irma this time is spreading the winds rather than concentrating it, kind of similar to Ike in 2008 after it crossed Cuba. Probably good with regards to not getting extreme winds but it will mean the wind swathe will be huge.

will likelt be the case unless that inner eyewall collapses than it can RI>


Yeah that inner eyewall is still holding on, as the heat content increases and it pulls away from Cuba it may struggle to totally lose that inner eyewall, maybe get stuck like Ike did.

If it does clear out that inner eyewall then some big deepening is likely and with it rapid strengthening.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10146 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:24 pm

Why cant it just follow the arrow??

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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10147 Postby otowntiger » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:24 pm

KBBOCA wrote:12 hour Key West radar loop

 https://twitter.com/NWSEastern/status/906657750612156416



Still stubbornly chugging much more west than north- could it go west of Tampa? And visit Big Bend? Possible with so many models keeping her off shore.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10148 Postby GCANE » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:25 pm

Some small, short-duration towers starting to fire on the eyewall.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10149 Postby Meteorcane » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:25 pm

Looks like the outer eyewall has been contracting at a pretty good clip, wouldn't be surprised to see this EWRC wrap up sooner rather than later.... although I say this will a big caveat that it seems that no EWRC is "typical".
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10150 Postby AdamFirst » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:25 pm

Tornado warned storm in Fort Pierce - St. Lucie County
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10151 Postby KWT » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:26 pm

Very slow motion at the moment for sure, still drifting westwards again but I think that the lift out is now only a matter of a couple of hours away, can't imagine this will last much longer.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10152 Postby Patricia » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:27 pm

westcoastnative wrote:Some live cam links for Key West. Don't know how long they'll work, of course.

Marathon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaErEed7UPI
Mallory Square https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUwIkt56IIQ
Southern Most Beach Resort https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNCwj35OwmI
Key West Seaport https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYEXQdUFha8
"Two Friends Rooftop" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGD1byu7gJc


I've been watching these the last hour or so and you can really see the progress. Especially the Southern Most Beach Resort feed!
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10153 Postby ronyan » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:28 pm

Have any papers been written on why Ike maintained that double wind maximum? Was that just an extremely long EWRC?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10154 Postby floridasun78 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:28 pm

wow we having tornado out break in south fl going wild night
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10155 Postby EquusStorm » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:28 pm

To the best of my memory, if this goes <920 at landfall, it will beat out Katrina (and Andrew below 922) and be only behind Camille and the Labor Day hurricane, making it the third most intense US landfall.
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10156 Postby AutoPenalti » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:29 pm

Wasn't the lift suppose to happen today?
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10157 Postby floridasun78 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:29 pm

three torando been report in broward none dade yet
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10158 Postby Michele B » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:29 pm

AdamFirst wrote:Training band developing over Martin/St. Lucie County coastal waters...torrential downpours and pretty decent gusts into PSL


Tornadoes reported north of St. Lucie, and south - one in Palm Beach and one in Broward County
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Hurricane - Discussion

#10159 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:30 pm

KWT wrote:Very slow motion at the moment for sure, still drifting westwards again but I think that the lift out is now only a matter of a couple of hours away, can't imagine this will last much longer.


maybe a little ridge pumping...

though you can see the mid to upper low over the lower MS valley dropping south.. only a mater of time..

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/flash-wv.html
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Re: ATL: IRMA - Main Recon Thread (Data only)

#10160 Postby Kingarabian » Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:30 pm

URNT12 KWBC 092320
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL112017
A. 09/23:06:34Z
B. 23 deg 19 min N
080 deg 48 min W
C. 700 mb 2525 m
D. 93 kt
E. 033 deg 11 nm
F. 121 deg 104 kt
G. 040 deg 17 nm
H. 934 mb
I. 13 C / 3063 m
J. 19 C / 3082 m
K. 14 C / NA
L. CLOSED
M. CO12-25
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. NOAA2 2711A IRMA OB 16
MAX FL WIND 104 KT 040 / 17 NM 23:02:30Z
SEC MAX FL WIND 88 KT BRNG:047 deg RNG:81 nm
CNTR DROPSONDE SFC WIND 310 / 09 KTS
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