Western Caribbean Area of Interest: (Is INVEST 90L)

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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#121 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 19, 2018 11:36 am

12z GFS has a sloppy Tropical Storm tracking thru Florida Peninsula and then making landfall in Georgia / South Carolina border as a 1000 mb TS.

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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#122 Postby gatorcane » Sat May 19, 2018 12:56 pm

NAVGEM coming in stronger:

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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#123 Postby Alyono » Sat May 19, 2018 1:37 pm

an extratropical low remains by far the most likely solution.

The GFS low is not really tropical. Looks more like a frontal wave. FVGFS now trending toward that solution as well
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#124 Postby N2FSU » Sat May 19, 2018 1:51 pm

Euro staying consistent on the track.


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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#125 Postby bamajammer4eva » Sat May 19, 2018 2:10 pm

:uarrow: Looks like Euro is losing it now only showing 1003mb probably just a showery holiday weekend as is often the case anyways kicking off summer.
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#126 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 19, 2018 2:56 pm

One of the experts chims in on this.

@DrRickKnabb
Hurricane next weekend very unlikely, appears not an environment for a strong tropical cyclone. Maybe not even a weaker one, but can’t rule it out. Could be subtropical/hybrid with tropical and non-tropical aspects. Keep watching, we’ll know more later.


 https://twitter.com/DrRickKnabb/status/997926714985590785


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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#127 Postby CyclonicFury » Sat May 19, 2018 4:39 pm

Does anyone have the 12z EPS? If so, how many members show development?
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#128 Postby TheAustinMan » Sat May 19, 2018 4:54 pm

At least for now, the disturbance in question remains a disorganized general area of convection in the Southwestern Caribbean. The whole mass of moisture should slowly push west towards the western Caribbean, but until them, don't expect a whole lot of development.

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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#129 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 19, 2018 5:18 pm

That is not a tropical cyclone on the 18z GFS at 150 hours.

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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#130 Postby AJC3 » Sat May 19, 2018 6:25 pm

I'm inclined to discount the Euro's idea of developing the BE (baroclinically enhanced) surface low underneath the mid-upper trough. I think this is a case where pressures will lower farther east, underneath the stronger jet forced ascent. This is looking like another low latitude XTC event, where you have a broad low, with multiple transient convectively induced swirls getting spat out around a larger gyre, and just about all the precip/heavy rain is in the baroclinic zone to the east. Looks like another heavy rain event for Florida late next week - hopefully slightly lower coverage of rain for a day, maybe two, before then.
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#131 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat May 19, 2018 7:18 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:Does anyone have the 12z EPS? If so, how many members show development?

I count 4 ECM EPS Members sub 1000mb in the Eastern Gulf headed for the Panhandle 8 days out.
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#132 Postby CyclonicFury » Sat May 19, 2018 7:22 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:Does anyone have the 12z EPS? If so, how many members show development?

I count 4 ECM EPS Members sub 1000mb in the Eastern Gulf headed for the Panhandle 8 days out.

Thanks. So only 4 of the 50 members have development?
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#133 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat May 19, 2018 7:49 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:
Dean4Storms wrote:
CyclonicFury wrote:Does anyone have the 12z EPS? If so, how many members show development?

I count 4 ECM EPS Members sub 1000mb in the Eastern Gulf headed for the Panhandle 8 days out.

Thanks. So only 4 of the 50 members have development?


I see two others in the 1000mb to 1010mb so maybe 2 TD strength closed lows. First closed low appears near western tip of Cuba by Friday Noon.... 4 TS strength head to landfalls from Destin to Cross City in the Big Bemd area. Strongest appears to be 988mb just East of Appalachicola.
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#134 Postby psyclone » Sat May 19, 2018 7:54 pm

WPC depicts a wet scene over the next week for Florida but really delivers the deluge on the east coast from the keys up to Brevard county. Hopefully the firehose can get a shove eastward.
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#135 Postby stormlover2013 » Sat May 19, 2018 8:24 pm

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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#136 Postby Sciencerocks » Sat May 19, 2018 8:31 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:New gfs 18z on crack lol

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 51918&fh=6


Lets just say that I won't be trusting the fv3 until it proves its self a few times with these off the wall "predictions".
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#137 Postby cycloneye » Sat May 19, 2018 8:45 pm

I think they have to do plenty of fixing and testing to the FV3 before the upgrade in 2019.
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#138 Postby wxman57 » Sat May 19, 2018 9:12 pm

CyclonicFury wrote:Does anyone have the 12z EPS? If so, how many members show development?


EC ensembles chance of development dropped from 59% at 00Z to 33% at 12Z. GFS is up to 73%.
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#139 Postby Dylan » Sat May 19, 2018 9:39 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:New gfs 18z on crack lol

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 51918&fh=6


What an embarrassment for NOAA. The GFS has become a complete joke.
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Re: Western Caribbean Area of Interest

#140 Postby Alyono » Sat May 19, 2018 9:40 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:New gfs 18z on crack lol

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 51918&fh=6



it did totally drop the Caribbean system

of course, it has a BS hurricane in the Gulf. It forms from a weak wave currently near Florida.

That model needs to be blown up and redesigned from scratch. They can start by using a totally different convective paramaterization scheme
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