ATL: ALBERTO - Post-Tropical

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1601 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sat May 26, 2018 1:02 pm

MGC wrote:With the new center forming, I think the threat to the Florida Peninsula has increased. Looking more tropical with the convection located near the center. Appears to be becoming better organized. Interesting what next recon mission reveals......MGC


How does the reformation incidate a larger threat to the Florida peninsula? I figured since the reformatIon was a little bit west, it would perhaps add just a little distance to the peninsula, not end up bringing it closer. Or are you referring to stronger effects in the outer bands?
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1602 Postby Ivanhater » Sat May 26, 2018 1:02 pm

And euro shows strengthening before landfall as well
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1603 Postby fwbbreeze » Sat May 26, 2018 1:03 pm

Bit of an "Erin"esque approach there. Not referencing the full track or intensity just the direction at landfall.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1604 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Sat May 26, 2018 1:04 pm

ECMWF being weaker is a good thing. Trends are as positive as they can be. Regardless, looks like models showing a good amount of rain. Hopefully, shear does not let up.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1605 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Sat May 26, 2018 1:05 pm

fwbbreeze wrote:Bit of an "Erin"esque approach there. Not referencing the full track or intensity just the direction at landfall.

Thinking the exact same thing. Very much like erin with the ESE to WNW approach.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1606 Postby TheStormExpert » Sat May 26, 2018 1:07 pm

First off the 12z Euro initialized Alberto as a 1005mb low when as of 2pm it is already down to 999mb.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1607 Postby gatorcane » Sat May 26, 2018 1:08 pm

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1608 Postby Hammy » Sat May 26, 2018 1:08 pm

I think it's possible we could disregard this set of models on the intensity forecasts as Alberto was much more disorganized just a few hours ago when the data came out.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1609 Postby tolakram » Sat May 26, 2018 1:09 pm

This is from Weathermodels.com. I could not find anything on image sharing but will only post this part of the frame to show landfall. Max winds 39.3 knots.

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1610 Postby Ivanhater » Sat May 26, 2018 1:09 pm

Still packing a punch inland
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1611 Postby tolakram » Sat May 26, 2018 1:13 pm

Here's the free version from weather.us. With the 3 hour intervals look at this approach.

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1612 Postby gatorcane » Sat May 26, 2018 1:13 pm

I was looking back at the Euro runs and looks like it has shifted like 300-400 miles to the east on its closest approach to Florida from runs just a couple of days ago. The UKMET looks like it is going to nail the track on this storm. Props to that model.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1613 Postby Ivanhater » Sat May 26, 2018 1:16 pm

Great loop! That loop has it wobbling right up to landfall between P'cola and FWB....long couple of days ahead
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1614 Postby slamdaddy » Sat May 26, 2018 1:16 pm

Not trying to be a chucklehead...but model data is as of the model time. 1200Z run is information accumulated as of that time. so the 1200Z run was as of 7AM CDT or 8AM CDT. not sure if this has any bearing on the center reformation that was discovered around 10AM CDT.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1615 Postby tolakram » Sat May 26, 2018 1:17 pm

Here's landfall with wind speeds.

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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1616 Postby Dean4Storms » Sat May 26, 2018 1:17 pm

ECM into Navarre with center.....Wind gusts from P'Cola to PCB 60-70mph!
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1617 Postby MGC » Sat May 26, 2018 1:17 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
MGC wrote:With the new center forming, I think the threat to the Florida Peninsula has increased. Looking more tropical with the convection located near the center. Appears to be becoming better organized. Interesting what next recon mission reveals......MGC


How does the reformation incidate a larger threat to the Florida peninsula? I figured since the reformatIon was a little bit west, it would perhaps add just a little distance to the peninsula, not end up bringing it closer. Or are you referring to stronger effects in the outer bands?


The center of Alberto is further north, less time for the ULL to turn it NW. I am thinking between AL/FL state line and Destin.....MGC
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1618 Postby tolakram » Sat May 26, 2018 1:18 pm

slamdaddy wrote:Not trying to be a chucklehead...but model data is as of the model time. 1200Z run is information accumulated as of that time. so the 1200Z run was as of 7AM CDT or 8AM CDT. not sure if this has any bearing on the center reformation that was discovered around 10AM CDT.


The euro initialized near the new center location.
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Models

#1619 Postby Ivanhater » Sat May 26, 2018 1:18 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:ECM into Navarre with center.....Wind gusts from P'Cola to PCB 60-70mph!


:eek: Get the coffee ready Dean!
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Re: ATL: ALBERTO - Sub-Tropical Storm

#1620 Postby crimi481 » Sat May 26, 2018 1:19 pm

So what effect will all this dry air have on the storm intensification? Looks like being infused in center
http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/exper/?pa ... rbars=data
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