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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression

#221 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:05 pm

Special advisory or they wait until 5 PM since is in open waters?
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression

#222 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:06 pm

TD to a hurricane.. lol though more likely they will go to 70 mph for an advisory then up it to a hurricane if the trend continues.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression

#223 Postby txwatcher91 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:07 pm

Given the visible presentation and the microwave passes showing an eyewall forming, it's likely this is a strong TS at this time. A hurricane looks pretty likely now... I wonder if this will affect the track and how well it handles the shear in a few days.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression

#224 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:18 pm

It's TINY, like Marco of 2008. Radius of max winds under 15 miles. The whole core is about 35 miles across. Small cyclones can strengthen quickly and weaken quickly.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression

#225 Postby Alyono » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:33 pm

TS Beryl now
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression

#226 Postby NDG » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:35 pm

Been on vacation during the past few days, all I can say is that I have busted big time for saying a week or two ago that the MDR was going to be closed for business during the month of July, lol. I guess TD 2 has been lucky that it has tracked fairly south closer to warmer waters and away from the deep SAL.

Edit: Slow internet service, I see that it is now TS Beryl.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm

#227 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:35 pm

Close-up of Beryl an hour ago. "Eye" less distinct now.

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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression

#228 Postby txwatcher91 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:37 pm

wxman57 wrote:It's TINY, like Marco of 2008. Radius of max winds under 15 miles. The whole core is about 35 miles across. Small cyclones can strengthen quickly and weaken quickly.


Just goes to show how much we still have to learn about intensity forecasting. No one expected much from this system and here we are with a developing eyewall and likely strong TS based on microwave data.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm

#229 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:39 pm

This is going to be an interesting discussion... winds only 40mph..
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#230 Postby CyclonicFury » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:39 pm

I certainly did not expect to see a tropical storm in the MDR in early July this year. I'm shocked.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm

#231 Postby GCANE » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:39 pm

Looks like an eyewall hot tower firing off and spinning around.
Tropopause expanding ahead of Beryl's path.
Should barrel to 50W with no problems.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm

#232 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:41 pm

GCANE wrote:Looks like an eyewall hot tower firing off and spinning around.
Tropopause expanding ahead of Beryl's path.
Should barrel to 50W with no problems.


Yep continuous hot tower developments and wrapping around is a typical sign of a developing hurricane.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Tropical Depression

#233 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:41 pm

NDG wrote:Been on vacation during the past few days, all I can say is that I have busted big time for saying a week or two ago that the MDR was going to be closed for business during the month of July, lol. I guess TD 2 has been lucky that it has tracked fairly south closer to warmer waters and away from the deep SAL.

Edit: Slow internet service, I see that it is now TS Beryl.


Beryl formed on the SW edge of another SAL outbreak. Typically, there is an area of convergence west of and south of SAL outbreaks. This can lead to the formation of small cyclones (Beryl). It still appears that Beryl will run into increasing shear over the weekend as it approaches the Caribbean, causing its circulation to dissipate.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm

#234 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:43 pm

Beryl's an extremely small storm and can probably ramp up quick. I think 50 knots is a reasonable guess now.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm

#235 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:48 pm

Eye clearing out more.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm

#236 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:50 pm

If they flew Recon in there, I think they'd find a lot stronger of a storm.

I'd personally go with 55 kt right now, although with a great deal of uncertainty.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm

#237 Postby Ian2401 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:51 pm

It really seems like the NHC has been dropping the ball on this one. Likely has been a TC since yesterday, and now it seems the current wind estimate at 40mph is far too low.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm

#238 Postby SouthDadeFish » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:52 pm

I certainly think Beryl is stronger than a 40 mph tropical storm, but I don't think this is a hurricane yet. Nonetheless, the rate of intensification today is pretty impressive. TCs can overcome nearby dry air when there is minimal vertical wind shear, as seen in this case. SHIPS has shear remaining below 5 kt over the next 24 h, so I wouldn't be shocked if Beryl did become a hurricane at some point.
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Re: ATL: Beryl - Tropical Storm

#239 Postby Aric Dunn » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:52 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:If they flew Recon in there, I think they'd find a lot stronger of a storm.

I'd personally go with 55 kt right now, although with a great deal of uncertainty.


Agreed. 60 to 65 is reasonable. though the pressure gradient is probably rather high. could be higher.
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Re: ATL: BERYL - Tropical Storm

#240 Postby AubreyStorm » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:54 pm

Tropical Storm Beryl Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL022018
230 PM AST Thu Jul 05 2018

...DEPRESSION BECOMES TROPICAL STORM BERYL...

Satellite imagery indicates that the tropical depression has
strengthened and is now Tropical Storm Beryl. Maximum sustained
winds are estimated to be 40 mph (65 km/h) with higher gusts. An
updated intensity forecast will be provided with the 500 PM AST
(2100 UTC) advisory.


SUMMARY OF 230 PM AST...1830 UTC...INFORMATION
---------------------------------------------------
LOCATION...10.3N 42.3W
ABOUT 1330 MI...2140 KM ESE OF THE LESSER ANTILLES
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...40 MPH...65 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 275 DEGREES AT 16 MPH...26 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1007 MB...29.74 INCHES

$$
Forecaster Brennan/Berg
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