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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1181 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:31 am

Lane continues to stair step to the NW. More pronounced NW movement needs to begin for there to be a direct impact on the Big Island.

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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1182 Postby Chris90 » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:37 am

Last eye dropsonde from the NOAA2 mission measured 936mb with 19kts of wind. Pressure now up to about 934mb?
Will have to monitor if this is just a short term fluctuation or the start of a trend. I hope it's the start of a trend.
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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1183 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 22, 2018 3:44 am

Moment of truth for the models begins within the next 6 hours:
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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1184 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:00 am


It is worth noting that the 00Z intensity was also bumped up to 140 kt from the original 135 kt in best track, validating the previous suspicions that recon supported a category 5 on the previous mission.
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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1185 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:09 am

Current weakening trend looks like it may be from a nibble of dry air lurking about by the back side.

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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1186 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:12 am

1900hurricane wrote:Current weakening trend looks like it may be from a nibble of dry air lurking about by the back side.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Nh5CfrO.jpg?1[img]

What do you think about the track differences between the GFS and Euro?
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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1188 Postby Bad_Hurricane » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:26 am

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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1189 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:29 am

06z GFS rolling. Here we go.
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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1190 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:36 am

Kingarabian wrote:Lane continues to stair step to the NW. More pronounced NW movement needs to begin for there to be a direct impact on the Big Island.

https://i.imgur.com/4l9SnaB.png


Lane has been missing the forecast track just slightly to the S and W since yesterday... Hopefully these subtle movements will keep Lane far enough away...
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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1191 Postby OahuWahine » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:37 am

Looks like it's still insisting on a Big Island hit.
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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1192 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:38 am

06z GFS through hour 0-24:
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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1193 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:40 am

Sizable west shift on the 06z GFS:

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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1194 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:41 am

06z GFS, Slight W shift through 36hrs.
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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1195 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:43 am

Better agreement between the GFS and Euro:

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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1196 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:46 am

Kingarabian wrote:
1900hurricane wrote:Current weakening trend looks like it may be from a nibble of dry air lurking about by the back side.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/Nh5CfrO.jpg?1[img]

What do you think about the track differences between the GFS and Euro?

The GFS remains slightly stronger with the subtle ridge that has built in behind Lane while the ECMWF has slightly lower heights to the west, and I still believe that this or differences in model physics is the primary reason for the difference in the two solutions. The differences really are only slight too, but this is a classic case of only slight differences resulting in drastically different impacts.

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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1197 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:49 am

06zGFS through hour 60, looks like a NE track towards Maui.

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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1198 Postby 1900hurricane » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:49 am

06Z GFS has trended slightly towards the ECMWF wrt the lower heights to Lane's west.

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Re: CPAC: LANE - Hurricane

#1199 Postby Kingarabian » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:52 am

And that's all they're going to agree on for this run:

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This looks like a hurricane landfall for Maui. GFS initialized about 30mb too high. So I would tack on a 10-12mb drop to the initial landfall point.
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