2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1541 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 27, 2018 6:57 am

GFS ensembles remain bullish. Just 5 days from now:

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#1542 Postby wxGuy » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:21 am

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1543 Postby ronjon » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:31 am

Pretty stout 500 mb ridging setting up over the western Atlantic/Eastern US for the westernmost low pressure in the ECM in both the 00z operational and ensemble run.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf&region=atl&pkg=z500_mslp&runtime=2018082700&fh=240
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1544 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:46 am

That circ just off the African Coast is slowly moving.. looking at the models. appears it will stay rather stationary until the next surge/ wave approaches. It is still looking rather good all by itself.

You can see it quite nicely on TPW.. HIghly likely something comes from this or the combination of this and another wave.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1545 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:58 am

Looks like these waves will get to the Carrib and GOM or the will be fish storms, if I was a betting man the GOM will have 2-3 named storms in sept.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1546 Postby blp » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:05 am

Looks like we have consistency on the twin development in MDR.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1547 Postby chris_fit » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:22 am

Yea, that is some pretty good agreement between various models. Kinda ominous looking to be honest.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1548 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:24 am

Anyone else notice the Euro and GFS have something potentially developing in the western atlantic and gulf? GFS into florida the EUro farther south and does not develop till gulf. small and weak but worth watching..


Also just randomly noticed a nice Pouch on the TPW Cruising west few hundred miles north of PR and DR. models dont do much with it. but convection has increased this morning and there is some weak circ/vorticity. also worth watching.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1549 Postby Bocadude85 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:28 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Anyone else notice the Euro and GFS have something potentially developing in the western atlantic and gulf? GFS into florida the EUro farther south and does not develop till gulf. small and weak but worth watching..


Also just randomly noticed a nice Pouch on the TPW Cruising west few hundred miles north of PR and DR. models dont do much with it. but convection has increased this morning and there is some weak circ/vorticity. also worth watching.

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Yes I saw that on the model runs this morning, very weak but definitely worth watching. GFS is into central Florida and Euro is through the straits and into the GOM, split the difference and we could be looking at a weak TS hitting S.Fla and then heading into the GOM.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1550 Postby BobHarlem » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:54 am

The German Icon model has something forming east of the Bahamas in two days.

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1551 Postby blp » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:54 am

Aric Dunn wrote:Anyone else notice the Euro and GFS have something potentially developing in the western atlantic and gulf? GFS into florida the EUro farther south and does not develop till gulf. small and weak but worth watching..


Also just randomly noticed a nice Pouch on the TPW Cruising west few hundred miles north of PR and DR. models dont do much with it. but convection has increased this morning and there is some weak circ/vorticity. also worth watching.

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[https://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/goes/abi/dynamic/GOES13172018239QNrhOQ.jpg[/img]


Aric, we have been following that wave in the thread for the Lesser Antilles. It has been showing potential for several days.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1552 Postby NDG » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:09 am

BobHarlem wrote:The German Icon model has something forming east of the Bahamas in two days.

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I just started a new thread on the vorticity you and Aric pointed out earlier this morning.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1553 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:08 am

The GFS again going with development near the Cabo Verde islands within 5 days. The model has shifted south with the track. Time for the NHC to mention this area:

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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1554 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:28 am

I made a thread for the Tropical Wave that models develop so post the runs over there.

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=119793&p=2694332#p2694332
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1555 Postby chris_fit » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:59 am

12Z GFS not really enthusiastic... couple lack luster TS that die off or get curved out to sea
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#1556 Postby wxGuy » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:19 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:Looks like these waves will get to the Carrib and GOM or the will be fish storms, if I was a betting man the GOM will have 2-3 named storms in sept.

me and you both bullish on a gom storm
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1557 Postby SFLcane » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:40 pm

chris_fit wrote:12Z GFS not really enthusiastic... couple lack luster TS that die off or get curved out to sea


Bla...yep few likely sheared systems recurving into open Atlantic. It’s been a quite one that’s for sure enjoying it to after last yrs season.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1558 Postby galaxy401 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:12 pm

SFLcane wrote:
chris_fit wrote:12Z GFS not really enthusiastic... couple lack luster TS that die off or get curved out to sea


Bla...yep few likely sheared systems recurving into open Atlantic. It’s been a quite one that’s for sure enjoying it to after last yrs season.


12Z GFS runs are the only ones that don't show much development. All the other runs are more enthusiastic.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1559 Postby toad strangler » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:13 pm

SFLcane wrote:
chris_fit wrote:12Z GFS not really enthusiastic... couple lack luster TS that die off or get curved out to sea


Bla...yep few likely sheared systems recurving into open Atlantic. It’s been a quite one that’s for sure enjoying it to after last yrs season.


Not me. I want them lined up like 5PM flights into O'Hare. Oh well.
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Re: 2018 Tropics: Global Model Runs Discussion (Out to day 16)

#1560 Postby chris_fit » Mon Aug 27, 2018 1:27 pm

Is it just me or did CMC model stop at 128 hours for the 12z run?
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