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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#481 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:56 pm

I wouldn’t be so quick to write this off in the Gulf. First off the 12z Euro once again sends it quickly into the SE Louisiana coast right as it gets going, it also looks to keep a well-defined signature as it heads west inland towards SE Texas. Secondly the Instability in the Gulf has been above average since the beginning of May. Then there is the warm mid-upper 80’s bath water (SST’s) that are currently present. So that leaves limited time over water and wind shear as the two possible inhibitors.

 https://twitter.com/stuostro/status/1034827423244857344


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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#482 Postby stormlover2013 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:58 pm

Sambucol wrote:
Cpv17 wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:CP17 where u from


SE TX. Looking like lots of rain coming for my area over the next week or two.

Same here in SETX. Harveyland.



Same here we all from SETX lol
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#483 Postby stormlover2013 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:59 pm

LarryWx wrote:The 12Z EPS has many fewer sub 999 mb TCs among its 51 members: only 4 vs 11 on the 0Z EPS. So, an overall bearish Euro suite trend at 12Z fwiw.



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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#484 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:01 pm

been wet all week, rains every 6-8 hours with showers and tstorms coming in from the ATL
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#485 Postby tarheelprogrammer » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:03 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:I wouldn’t be so quick to write this off in the Gulf. First off the 12z Euro once again sends it quickly into the SE Louisiana coast right as it gets going, it also looks to keep a well-defined signature as it heads west inland towards SE Texas. Secondly the Instability in the Gulf has been above average since the beginning of May. Then there is the warm mid-upper 80’s bath water (SST’s) that are currently present. So that leaves limited time over water and wind shear as the two possible inhibitors.

https://twitter.com/stuostro/status/1034827423244857344


In terms of negatives Wind Shear is the top dog though. Without favorable shear environments these systems struggle to get going. It is what tears apart storms. June in the GOM the past decade is a good example of this. All the warmest waters and instability in the world cannot overcome shear issues. It is still 5 days away so shear forecasts could be off by quite a bit I am sure, but if shear is high this system will struggle to get to TS strength. IMHO.
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#486 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:05 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
SFLcane wrote:It could get quite rainy across South Florida... :roll:

https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2018/08/29/wow.png
been wet all week, rains every 6-8 hours with showers and tstorms coming in from the ATL

Yes the last several days have been more unstable than usual across coastal Palm Beach County at least. Though overall since early-mid June it’s been more on the drier side of things. We could use the rain again after the May deluge as the ponds and lawn are slowly drying up some.
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#487 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:10 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:I wouldn’t be so quick to write this off in the Gulf. First off the 12z Euro once again sends it quickly into the SE Louisiana coast right as it gets going, it also looks to keep a well-defined signature as it heads west inland towards SE Texas. Secondly the Instability in the Gulf has been above average since the beginning of May. Then there is the warm mid-upper 80’s bath water (SST’s) that are currently present. So that leaves limited time over water and wind shear as the two possible inhibitors.

https://twitter.com/stuostro/status/1034827423244857344


In terms of negatives Wind Shear is the top dog though. Without favorable shear environments these systems struggle to get going. It is what tears apart storms. June in the GOM the past decade is a good example of this. All the warmest waters and instability in the world cannot overcome shear issues. It is still 5 days away so shear forecasts could be off by quite a bit I am sure, but if shear is high this system will struggle to get to TS strength. IMHO.

Overall wind shear has been below normal in the Gulf as of recent.

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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#488 Postby TheStormExpert » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:12 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:
LarryWx wrote:The 12Z EPS has many fewer sub 999 mb TCs among its 51 members: only 4 vs 11 on the 0Z EPS. So, an overall bearish Euro suite trend at 12Z fwiw.



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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#489 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:17 pm

we have another round inbound now, had a round this morning and last night..feels more like june than august
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#490 Postby SoupBone » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:23 pm

tarheelprogrammer wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:I wouldn’t be so quick to write this off in the Gulf. First off the 12z Euro once again sends it quickly into the SE Louisiana coast right as it gets going, it also looks to keep a well-defined signature as it heads west inland towards SE Texas. Secondly the Instability in the Gulf has been above average since the beginning of May. Then there is the warm mid-upper 80’s bath water (SST’s) that are currently present. So that leaves limited time over water and wind shear as the two possible inhibitors.


In terms of negatives Wind Shear is the top dog though. Without favorable shear environments these systems struggle to get going. It is what tears apart storms. June in the GOM the past decade is a good example of this. All the warmest waters and instability in the world cannot overcome shear issues. It is still 5 days away so shear forecasts could be off by quite a bit I am sure, but if shear is high this system will struggle to get to TS strength. IMHO.


Cue the shear map! Shear, for now, is favorable in most of the GoM, though we all know how quickly that can change. Like I said earlier, I've been watching it for a while now, and it's moved all over the place, and quickly too.

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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#491 Postby Wakeknight » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:31 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:been wet all week, rains every 6-8 hours with showers and tstorms coming in from the ATL

Yes the last several days have been more unstable than usual across coastal Palm Beach County at least. Though overall since early-mid June it’s been more on the drier side of things. We could use the rain again after the May deluge as the ponds and lawn are slowly drying up some.
we have another round inbound now, had a round this morning and last night..feels more like june than august


Here in Sarasota we have had a dry summer; our normal afternoon summer storm pattern settled in much later that usual.
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#492 Postby LarryWx » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:31 pm

TheStormExpert wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:
LarryWx wrote:The 12Z EPS has many fewer sub 999 mb TCs among its 51 members: only 4 vs 11 on the 0Z EPS. So, an overall bearish Euro suite trend at 12Z fwiw.




http://i67.tinypic.com/drfo76.jpg


Thanks for posting. For those who may be confused, this image shows that there are far fewer TS+s (blue/orange) on this 12Z EPS vs the 0Z EPS. Note that the vast majority of the ones on this image are only green/TD strength. Note that this 12Z does have one H (into TX), a cat 2. Neither the 0Z nor any earlier run had any cat 2+.
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#493 Postby stormlover2013 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:33 pm

if anything scoots all the away across the GOM mark it down it will be stronger than a trop storm
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#494 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:01 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:if anything scoots all the away across the GOM mark it down it will be stronger than a trop storm


Depends on shear.
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#495 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:06 pm

18z surface analysis. Wave moving more slowly as axis is still in Leewards.

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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#496 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 29, 2018 4:16 pm

stormlover2013 wrote:if anything scoots all the away across the GOM mark it down it will be stronger than a trop storm
if it scoots it wont have time to develop into a cane.. :D
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#497 Postby stormlover2013 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:04 pm

Humberto didn’t have to scoot :)
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#498 Postby MGC » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:30 pm

This time of year all potential disturbances must be closely monitored. Things can spin up in the gulf quickly.....MGC
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#499 Postby Hammy » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:39 pm

GFS seems like it's been trending stronger today.
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Re: Tropical Wave Axis Across Leeward Islands

#500 Postby Cpv17 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 5:44 pm

18z GFS has the max vorticity going into the San Antonio Bay area late next week. This would bring a lot of rain to SETX and probably Louisiana as well.

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