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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2481 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:15 am

Congrats to those that got snow!

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2482 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:19 am

Officially 2.5" at WF and 4.5" in Oklahoma City.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2483 Postby bubba hotep » Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:21 am

Another view,

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2484 Postby Yukon Cornelius » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:01 pm

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2485 Postby harp » Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:12 pm

Just watched JB's new video. He's convinced it's coming. Has snow all the way down to the Gulf Coast in the very last part of the video.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2486 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:20 pm

Is this what they call a "barbell winter?" Cold at the beginning- warm in the middle- cold at the end. I dont remember the exact years, but we had similar winter to this in the 2000's. Still waiting on the MJO and the results from the SSW....
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2487 Postby orangeblood » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:27 pm

We've seen it time and time again over the years...when you see MEAN negative anomalies show up in the longer term like this, probability levels begin rising for potential severe cold outbreaks. There are some wildly cold GFS members towards this end of this run, particularly in Canada

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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2488 Postby harp » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:40 pm

I wonder when this is going to show up in the operational models?
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2489 Postby orangeblood » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:50 pm

harp wrote:I wonder when this is going to show up in the operational models?


For Arctic Outbreaks, It can show up on any given run but nothing to take too serious until we get less than 9-10 days out. For individual winter storms, that drops to 4-5 days out
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2490 Postby harp » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:52 pm

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harp wrote:I wonder when this is going to show up in the operational models?


It can show up on any given run but nothing to take too serious until we get less than 9-10 days out

Ok ,thanks for the response. I'm new here but just as weather nerdy as the rest of ya! :D
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2491 Postby wxman57 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:59 pm

12Z GFS has snow threatening D-FW area NEXT Sunday (13th). I'm sure you'll get some snow out of that storm...
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2492 Postby cheezyWXguy » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:02 pm

wxman57 wrote:12Z GFS has snow threatening D-FW area NEXT Sunday (13th). I'm sure you'll get some snow out of that storm...

Ha, I just saw that. Looks like a redo of what we just dealt with. Not holding my breath this time...
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2493 Postby Portastorm » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:17 pm

wxman57 wrote:12Z GFS has snow threatening D-FW area NEXT Sunday (13th). I'm sure you'll get some snow out of that storm...


(Referee throws yellow flag and says): "Personal foul. Unsportsmanslike conduct by wxman57. 15 yards and a first down for the Metroplexers."
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2494 Postby Cerlin » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:27 pm

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wxman57 wrote:12Z GFS has snow threatening D-FW area NEXT Sunday (13th). I'm sure you'll get some snow out of that storm...


(Referee throws yellow flag and says): "Personal foul. Unsportsmanslike conduct by wxman57. 15 yards and a first down for the Metroplexers."

We need that first down because we haven’t won a game in years!! 0-16 last year again!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2495 Postby spencer817 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:37 pm

Cerlin wrote:
Portastorm wrote:
wxman57 wrote:12Z GFS has snow threatening D-FW area NEXT Sunday (13th). I'm sure you'll get some snow out of that storm...


(Referee throws yellow flag and says): "Personal foul. Unsportsmanslike conduct by wxman57. 15 yards and a first down for the Metroplexers."

We need that first down because we haven’t won a game in years!! 0-16 last year again!

0-3 this year too, some close games but no wins! :lol:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2496 Postby Texas Snowman » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:59 pm

Portastorm wrote:
wxman57 wrote:12Z GFS has snow threatening D-FW area NEXT Sunday (13th). I'm sure you'll get some snow out of that storm...


(Referee throws yellow flag and says): "Personal foul. Unsportsmanslike conduct by wxman57. 15 yards and a first down for the Metroplexers."


Personally, I think that was targeting by Wxman57. 15 yard penalty and Wxman57 is disqualified from the contest.

:D :froze:
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2497 Postby EnnisTx » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:02 pm

Portastorm wrote:
wxman57 wrote:12Z GFS has snow threatening D-FW area NEXT Sunday (13th). I'm sure you'll get some snow out of that storm...


(Referee throws yellow flag and says): "Personal foul. Unsportsmanslike conduct by wxman57. 15 yards and a first down for the Metroplexers."


You forgot to mention that's was his 100 plus unsportsmanlike like penalty..... He has also been ejected!!!!!
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2498 Postby Ntxw » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:16 pm

Here is your first sign the Pacific is changing below with the SOI crash. Tahiti's pressures is lowering while Darwin's is rising. These mean tropical convection is moving out of the Maritimes/WPAC and into the Central Pacific. Continuous retrogression of the Aleutian low to follow the convection pullback from the IO which raises heights over western North America. SSW is a very slow process as the MSLP configuration changes from warmer Arctic to colder Continents. We like to think of SSW as instant game changers but top down events are not. It took heat fluxes from October to November to get the vortex perturbed then split didn't happen until this past week. The circulations will take a few weeks longer to propagate downward as it is not a bottom-up event.

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There is a small set of years with warm ENSO and a flip from +Dec soi to -Jan since 1950. Those years are 2003-2004, 1993-1994, 1969-1970, 1968-1969, 1965-1966. These are not all analogs only the complete reversal of the SOI in a particular ENSO state.
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2499 Postby Tireman4 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:29 pm

EnnisTx wrote:
Portastorm wrote:
wxman57 wrote:12Z GFS has snow threatening D-FW area NEXT Sunday (13th). I'm sure you'll get some snow out of that storm...


(Referee throws yellow flag and says): "Personal foul. Unsportsmanslike conduct by wxman57. 15 yards and a first down for the Metroplexers."


You forgot to mention that's was his 100 plus unsportsmanlike like penalty..... He has also been ejected!!!!!


And he is on notice that he could be suspended from the Snow League...:)
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Re: Texas Winter 2018-2019

#2500 Postby Cpv17 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:38 pm

Ntxw wrote:Here is your first sign the Pacific is changing below with the SOI crash. Tahiti's pressures is lowering while Darwin's is rising. These mean tropical convection is moving out of the Maritimes/WPAC and into the Central Pacific. Continuous retrogression of the Aleutian low to follow the convection pullback from the IO which raises heights over western North America. SSW is a very slow process as the MSLP configuration changes from warmer Arctic to colder Continents. We like to think of SSW as instant game changers but top down events are not. It took heat fluxes from October to November to get the vortex perturbed then split didn't happen until this past week. The circulations will take a few weeks longer to propagate downward as it is not a bottom-up event.

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There is a small set of years with warm ENSO and a flip from +Dec soi to -Jan since 1950. Those years are 2003-2004, 1993-1994, 1969-1970, 1968-1969, 1965-1966. These are not all analogs only the complete reversal of the SOI in a particular ENSO state.


It’s strange because I saw many winter forecasts that called for below average rain for the NW and it’s been anything but that. They’ve been getting slammed with deluge after deluge and some of the higher elevated areas around there and in far SW Canada have measured snow totals by the dozens.
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