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Re: ATL: TWO - Models
18z Euro is nearly identical to the NHC track... just a touch east of it. 18z GFS had a fairly significant shift west. I would expect a slight shift east at best for the 11pm update. Unfortunately the 18z Euro clobbers Lafayette with the 20"+ stripe so with hurricane gusting south winds that would be a whole lot worse than our August 2016 20"+ event. Not good.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models
sphelps8681 wrote:When will the data from the planes be available on the models?
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jasons wrote:It's funny how times have changed over the years. I remember when the GFDL was considered to use cutting-edge technology (at the time). It was almost freaky with TD10/then-Katrina, the only model showing the SW hook over Florida. It was voodoo-like at the time.
Then, somehow, it became trash.
I'm no pro-met, by any means; but have followed these forces of nature since Hurricane Audrey which I remember quite well. The GFDL was ALWAYS more reliable as a model than many of those being posted here. I'll stick with the NHC for my part. No slight intended, just defending the GFDL which I always thought was pretty close.
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Re: ATL: TWO - Models
I have been on this forum for a while and find it great how much you guys put into what you do, that said the NHC are normally on the ball with storm tracks
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NHC is locked in on the track at 3 days out, if you are on the line or 30 miles either side except to take the eyewall..they have been that good the last couple of yearsw5yne wrote:I have been on this forum for a while and find it great how much you guys put into what you do, that said the NHC are normally on the ball with storm tracks
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jlauderdal wrote:NHC is locked in on the track at 3 days out, if you are on the line or 30 miles either side except to take the eyewall..they have been that good the last couple of yearsw5yne wrote:I have been on this forum for a while and find it great how much you guys put into what you do, that said the NHC are normally on the ball with storm tracks
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This is not a very clear-cut situation. I wouldn't be surprised if it moves inland as far east as south of New Orleans, as the "legacy-GFS" predicts. NHC track may be east of Vermilion Bay by morning if the models don't shift significantly west.
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I would not even think about using the UKMET or NAM. They are doing a terrible job at depicting the frontal boundary pushing south. That frontal boundary is going to play a big role in trying to steer the system north.
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BRweather wrote:I would not even think about using the UKMET or NAM. They are doing a terrible job at depicting the frontal boundary pushing south. That frontal boundary is going to play a big role in trying to steer the system north.
The NAM yes.. Poor choice not to pay attention to the UKMET.
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jlauderdal wrote:NHC is locked in on the track at 3 days out, if you are on the line or 30 miles either side except to take the eyewall..they have been that good the last couple of yearsw5yne wrote:I have been on this forum for a while and find it great how much you guys put into what you do, that said the NHC are normally on the ball with storm tracks
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we can essentially toss out the legacy GFS.. it has it moving wnw from current position when it is dropping wsw to sw ..
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Aric Dunn wrote:BRweather wrote:I would not even think about using the UKMET or NAM. They are doing a terrible job at depicting the frontal boundary pushing south. That frontal boundary is going to play a big role in trying to steer the system north.
The NAM yes.. Poor choice not to pay attention to the UKMET.
The UKMET QPF totals were way too low implying to me the front is way too weak
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Aric Dunn wrote:BRweather wrote:I would not even think about using the UKMET or NAM. They are doing a terrible job at depicting the frontal boundary pushing south. That frontal boundary is going to play a big role in trying to steer the system north.
The NAM yes.. Poor choice not to pay attention to the UKMET.
Aric, could you explain why?
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SoupBone wrote:Aric Dunn wrote:BRweather wrote:I would not even think about using the UKMET or NAM. They are doing a terrible job at depicting the frontal boundary pushing south. That frontal boundary is going to play a big role in trying to steer the system north.
The NAM yes.. Poor choice not to pay attention to the UKMET.
Aric, could you explain why?
UKMET is one of the most reliable models.. besides florence last year it often sniffs out ridge strength. so we are cutting hairs here. The last 3 runs of the ukmet has reliably had the ridge strength correct and the extent.
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Looks like the NAM out through 9 hours is weaker and has shifted east.
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gatorcane wrote:Looks like the NAM out through 9 hours is weaker and has shifted east.
It also has the center of the storm in the spot it is in now, or a little north of that, at hour 15. It appears to be a bad initialization.
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gatorcane wrote:Looks like the NAM out through 9 hours is weaker and has shifted east.
Seems like it initialized a bit too far north.
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gatorcane wrote:Looks like the NAM out through 9 hours is weaker and has shifted east.
it also shows the center reforming 150 miles to the SW tomorrow...
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