ATL: DORIAN - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7381 Postby NDG » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:42 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Since it's weakening faster than expected, I won't be surprised if it's just a tropical storm by the time is reaches the Carolina area late in the week, due to more shear etc that is expected.....


I really doubt that and so do the models & pros.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7382 Postby wxman57 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:43 pm

Here's a sat pic with surface obs. Dorian's wind field remains rather compact. Winds along the coast of Florida east of the center are in the 12-20 mph range. I see a 25-30 mph west wind across the northern Keys. 50kt (58 mph) wind on the west end of Grand Bahama Islands in the outer part of the eyewall.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7383 Postby xironman » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:43 pm

Still no sign of a second wind maxima for a EWRC
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7384 Postby SeaBrz_FL » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:44 pm

underthwx wrote:What are the conditions like along the Florida coastline?....are yall experiencing Tropical Storm level winds?


Sunny but getting bigger gusts as the day goes on. Just had an old banana tree fall, but it would have happened in our next thunderstorm. Has some "sun rain", but actually quite nice out (for now). Highest gust so far 26 mph.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7385 Postby supercane4867 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:44 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:Since it's weakening faster than expected, I won't be surprised if it's just a tropical storm by the time is reaches the Carolina area late in the week, due to more shear etc that is expected.....

Not likely, it usually takes much more for a well formed hurricane like this to spin down from CAT1 to TS. In fact, many of them can maintain hurricane force winds for a long period even after becoming ex-tropical.

My guess is that we’ll see CAT1 to low end CAT2 impacts on the Carolinas
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7386 Postby wxman57 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:44 pm

Looks like Dorian may now be a Cat 3 hurricane, according to the first recon pass. Pressure way up. Top of this web portal page lists Dorian as a Cat 5, but it was downgraded to a 4 in the last advisory (135 kts).
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7387 Postby wx98 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:45 pm

xironman wrote:Still no sign of a second wind maxima for a EWRC

From what I’ve been getting here it’s apparently already gone through one and completed it
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7388 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:45 pm

A sustained wind of 40mph at Juno Pier. Wind field is getting larger.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7389 Postby PandaCitrus » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:46 pm

There is a storm surge catastrophe unfolding in Freeport.

 https://twitter.com/MorrisMedici/status/1168570843754049538


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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7390 Postby AJC3 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:46 pm

panamatropicwatch wrote:Buoy on west end of Grand Bahama now reporting sustained winds 45kts gusts to 57kts pressure 990.8mb.

https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=SPGF1


Small clarification in case anyone was wondering. This is a land based NOAA C-Man station, not a buoy, so you won't see any wave data from this platform.

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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7391 Postby 1900hurricane » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:01 pm

I'd probably bring the 06Z intensity down to 140 kt, 12Z to 125 kt, and set 18Z to 115 kt. Flight level wind reduction supported 115 kt, and that extrapolates to a 0.5T reduction every six hours since 00Z.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7392 Postby edu2703 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:01 pm

2:00 PM EDT Mon Sep 2
Location: 26.8°N 78.4°W
Moving: WNW at 1 mph
Min pressure: 938 mb
Max sustained: 150 mph
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7393 Postby PandaCitrus » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:03 pm

A weakening storm travelling at 1mph isn't very exciting or interesting to comment on. Probabilities of catastrophic impacts are greatly reduced and people are tired and trying to enjoy their Labor Day I guess.

It's still living hell in the Bahamas. Tons of video on Twitter from Freeport with catastrophic flooding.

johngaltfla wrote:Anyone home? Got awful quiet.....
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7394 Postby wx98 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:04 pm

Either they went off raw FL winds or they just don’t want to lower it too much too quickly
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7395 Postby sikkar » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:04 pm

NHC kept speed at 150MPH.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7396 Postby GCANE » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:04 pm

Major part if not all of the eyewall back over water.
Quickly snapping back to a more circular shape and possibly contracting.
A few lightning strikes in the eyewall.
Cloud tops cooling again.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7397 Postby ronjon » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:04 pm

ColdMiser123 wrote:A shallower storm system will follow the low level flow more compared to a taller storm system, since upper level flow starts to have a larger effect on storm motion with a taller storm system.

A weaker Dorian now may actually imply a track slightly closer to the Florida coast, since low level flow will be out of the southeast on closest approach, while upper level flow will be out of the west.


And an expanded wind field. Some of the models really enlarge the size of tropical storm force winds in 2-3 days.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7398 Postby Sanibel » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:06 pm

Weakening might mean Levi Cowen's prediction of a shallower storm being pushed to the Florida coast might verify...
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7399 Postby 1900hurricane » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:06 pm

edu2703 wrote:2:00 PM EDT Mon Sep 2
Location: 26.8°N 78.4°W
Moving: WNW at 1 mph
Min pressure: 938 mb
Max sustained: 150 mph

That intensity looks very generous but makes sense from the NHC's standpoint since they like continuity. They can edit best track points later to better fit the data if need be.
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Re: ATL: DORIAN - Hurricane - Discussion

#7400 Postby Canelaw99 » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:06 pm

Current steering map?
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