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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#681 Postby CaptinCrunch » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:22 pm

December 23rd 1989 DFW reached a low of -1F

One of the most severe arctic outbreaks occurred 30 years ago today! Sub-zero temperatures were seen across the region - one of only a few occurrences in North/Central Texas history. Glen Rose set the all-time record low for North Texas when they reached a bone-chilling -15F!
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#682 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:44 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:December 23rd 1989 DFW reached a low of -1F

One of the most severe arctic outbreaks occurred 30 years ago today! Sub-zero temperatures were seen across the region - one of only a few occurrences in North/Central Texas history. Glen Rose set the all-time record low for North Texas when they reached a bone-chilling -15F!


With the population growth in N. Texas. would a similar event today be catastrophic? I wonder if any insurance types have looked at this scenario?
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#683 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:48 pm

12z Euro ends on an interesting note

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#684 Postby Snowman67 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:05 pm

We were 73 pages into our Winter thread this time last year. Of course most of it was due to the models teasing us on several occasions.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#685 Postby harp » Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:45 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:December 23rd 1989 DFW reached a low of -1F

One of the most severe arctic outbreaks occurred 30 years ago today! Sub-zero temperatures were seen across the region - one of only a few occurrences in North/Central Texas history. Glen Rose set the all-time record low for North Texas when they reached a bone-chilling -15F!


Yes, I remember it well. We had snow here in south Louisiana and I have many pictures of that day. Took me 45 minutes to get home from work where I am normally 5 minutes away.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#686 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:46 pm

Snowman67 wrote:We were 73 pages into our Winter thread this time last year. Of course most of it was due to the models teasing us on several occasions.


There was certainly more hype and excitement around last winter but we all know how it turned out. I think this place will pick up as we move into January. I was hopeful we would see a pattern flip with the new year but things look delayed. However, my thinking hasn't really changed as the IOD continues to loose influence over the global pattern we will see enhanced convection return to the WPAC moving the Pacific into a more favorable pattern. That should be enough to shake things up and get us back in the game.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#687 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:49 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:December 23rd 1989 DFW reached a low of -1F

One of the most severe arctic outbreaks occurred 30 years ago today! Sub-zero temperatures were seen across the region - one of only a few occurrences in North/Central Texas history. Glen Rose set the all-time record low for North Texas when they reached a bone-chilling -15F!


With the population growth in N. Texas. would a similar event today be catastrophic? I wonder if any insurance types have looked at this scenario?


As a sidenote, that same arctic outbreak brought to us our first ever and only White Christmas ever recoreded here in history across the Jax and Northeast Florida area. I remember it like yesterday.

Boy have times changed. Now we rarely ever get to see or experience those type of cold outbreaks, like we saw in December 1983, January 1985., and December 1989. These are very anomalous events I know when they do occur but I would have thought over these past 30 years we would have seen a few more of these cold outbreaks.

We are lucky just to have a couple of freezes here in North Florida each winter over nearly the past decade now. Amazing. I don't want to get into a deeper discussion of why this is, but I will save that talk for another time.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#688 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:56 pm

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bubba hotep wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:December 23rd 1989 DFW reached a low of -1F

One of the most severe arctic outbreaks occurred 30 years ago today! Sub-zero temperatures were seen across the region - one of only a few occurrences in North/Central Texas history. Glen Rose set the all-time record low for North Texas when they reached a bone-chilling -15F!


With the population growth in N. Texas. would a similar event today be catastrophic? I wonder if any insurance types have looked at this scenario?


As a sidenote, that same arctic outbreak brouhht to us out first ever and only White Christmas ever recoreded here in history across the Jax and Northeast Florida area. I remember it like yesterday.

Boy have times changed. Now we rarely ever get to see or experience those type of cold outbreaks, like we saw in December 1983, January 1985., and December 1989. These are very anomalous events I know when they fo occur but I would have thought over these past 30 years we would have seen a few more of these cold outbreaks.

We are lucky just to have a couple of freezes here in North Florida each winter over nearly the past decade now. Amazing. I don't want to get into a deeper discussion of why this is, but I will save that talk for another time.


Yeah I wonder if DFW will ever go below zero again

Even for single digits it goes back to 1996 which is crazy
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#689 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:06 pm

I will say, looking at reanalysis temps in the 60's and 70's, temps were a little colder in the higher latitude regions, due to more ice, but i think those types of big big cold fronts are still possible today.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#690 Postby weatherdude1108 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:13 pm

harp wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:December 23rd 1989 DFW reached a low of -1F

One of the most severe arctic outbreaks occurred 30 years ago today! Sub-zero temperatures were seen across the region - one of only a few occurrences in North/Central Texas history. Glen Rose set the all-time record low for North Texas when they reached a bone-chilling -15F!


Yes, I remember it well. We had snow here in south Louisiana and I have many pictures of that day. Took me 45 minutes to get home from work where I am normally 5 minutes away.


Yeah. I was in San Antonio at the time in high school. I think it got down to 4 degrees F there! Killed my dad's large Ligustrum hedge in back. Had been there planted for 13 years.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#691 Postby gpsnowman » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:30 pm

Weekend after Christmas looking stormy. Some high dew points with temps in the upper 60's could create some good rain for late December. We sure could use some big rain in DFW and other areas of Texas so this is one to watch I believe. Then a more normal pattern sets up around the New Years holiday including a cool day for the hockey game January 1. I did not see any rain forecast for that day so the game should go on as planned. I remember several years ago, maybe in Chicago, watching the hockey game while snow was coming down and the fans were all dressed for cold weather. We might see some fans wearing t-shirts in this one in 2020. Oh well, winter and outdoor NHL in DFW.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#692 Postby bubba hotep » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:31 pm

Welp, there is no hope for DFW if this happens before we get snow!

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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#693 Postby Brent » Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:49 pm

bubba hotep wrote:Welp, there is no hope for DFW if this happens before we get snow!

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2019122318/gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_seus_48.png


:spam: that would be fitting
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#694 Postby srainhoutx » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:50 pm

CaptinCrunch wrote:December 23rd 1989 DFW reached a low of -1F

One of the most severe arctic outbreaks occurred 30 years ago today! Sub-zero temperatures were seen across the region - one of only a few occurrences in North/Central Texas history. Glen Rose set the all-time record low for North Texas when they reached a bone-chilling -15F!


I still have vivid memories of frozen pipes and fire hydrants across SE Texas. While the 83 Arctic Outbreak lasted several hours longer, the 89 event caught many off guard right in the heart of Christmas.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#695 Postby Shoshana » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:42 pm

bubba hotep wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:December 23rd 1989 DFW reached a low of -1F

One of the most severe arctic outbreaks occurred 30 years ago today! Sub-zero temperatures were seen across the region - one of only a few occurrences in North/Central Texas history. Glen Rose set the all-time record low for North Texas when they reached a bone-chilling -15F!


With the population growth in N. Texas. would a similar event today be catastrophic? I wonder if any insurance types have looked at this scenario?


I thought there was a day Dallas hit -4? Anyway, I can tell you a lot of people had to have transmissions repaired after that. I know 6 people who did including my mom. I guess the fluid was not up to par
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#696 Postby HockeyTx82 » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:49 pm

This forum is starting to sound like Cowboys fans (and yes I am one) in that we always reminisce about the glory days and realize we will never win another Super Bowl. Hell, the only Super Bowl in recent memory for anyone around here was we hosted one and look what happened both team and weather wise..... just saying all we got to talk about is the glorious storms of the past. In fact just today I told my extended family in Jersey who are Eagles fans I was going to get out VHS tapes and watch reruns of the early 90s Cowboys. :cry:
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#697 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:49 am

Shoshana wrote:
bubba hotep wrote:
CaptinCrunch wrote:December 23rd 1989 DFW reached a low of -1F

One of the most severe arctic outbreaks occurred 30 years ago today! Sub-zero temperatures were seen across the region - one of only a few occurrences in North/Central Texas history. Glen Rose set the all-time record low for North Texas when they reached a bone-chilling -15F!


With the population growth in N. Texas. would a similar event today be catastrophic? I wonder if any insurance types have looked at this scenario?


I thought there was a day Dallas hit -4? Anyway, I can tell you a lot of people had to have transmissions repaired after that. I know 6 people who did including my mom. I guess the fluid was not up to par


Officially at DFW only 4 times below zero on record

1 -8 Feb 12, 1899 Clear 1"
2 -2 Jan 31, 1949 Dense Fog 3"
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(tie) -1 Dec 23, 1989 Clear none
-1 Jan 18, 1930 Clear T
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#698 Postby CaptinCrunch » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:22 am

The 83' arctic outbreak lasted 296 straight hours at or below 32F across NTX. Record!

Imagine if last years arctic outbreak that hammered the great lake states with sub 20 and 30 degree temps dropped this far south.
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#699 Postby Brent » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:57 am

looks like after the weekend possibly another stormy setup around New Years Day(Euro comes through on New Years Day GFS holds off til late that night and the day after)

the Florida snow disappeared on the 0z GFS and no sign of any cold here either
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Re: Texas Winter 2019-2020

#700 Postby northjaxpro » Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:23 am

I think the only one happy on this board with this warm Christmas is that ole Ebenezer Scrooge... oh beg your pardon.. Wxman57. :) This warm Christmas sucks for sure with yours truly!

Hang in there folks!! I know just from following this thread over the years, that y'all are aching for wintry weather and hopefully Mother Nature will stop this cruel game with us concerning some real winter weather coming real soon. The pendulum will swing the other way to us cold weather lovers way soon!!

In the meantime, I wanted to take this time to wish you all out in the Lone Star state and everyone else on the Storm2K forum a very Merry Christmas and the best this holiday season!!

Yeah even to you too '57 :)
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