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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#601 Postby jlauderdal » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:46 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:Just for laughs and giggles, the 12z Navgem has a hurricane making landfall in South Florida

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South Florida would be uninhabitable if 20% of these models verified.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#602 Postby DestinHurricane » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:47 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:Just for laughs and giggles, the 12z Navgem has a hurricane making landfall in South Florida

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lol not happening
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#603 Postby FixySLN » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:07 pm

DestinHurricane wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:Just for laughs and giggles, the 12z Navgem has a hurricane making landfall in South Florida

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/5cbe3b741f675ba18a89f0a16297450d.jpg


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lol not happening


You sure? There's a bunch of people that would be happy to know the future track if you've got that hiding somewhere.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#605 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:20 pm

If I'm not mistaken the Navy model might'dve pretty well with Hurricane Douglas's track. Could be an anomaly of course.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#606 Postby NDG » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:23 pm

All I know is that the EPS shows a strong narrow ridge to the north of 92L as it tracks through the Antilles to later grow stronger over Bermuda as the trough lifts to the north. Unfortunately this means a threat to the US of whatever becomes of 92L.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#607 Postby plasticup » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:26 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:Just for laughs and giggles, the 12z Navgem has a hurricane making landfall in South Florida

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/5cbe3b741f675ba18a89f0a16297450d.jpg


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South Florida would be uninhabitable if 20% of these models verified.


It will take more than a Cat 2 to destroy Miami
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#608 Postby Blown Away » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:30 pm

plasticup wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:Just for laughs and giggles, the 12z Navgem has a hurricane making landfall in South Florida

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/5cbe3b741f675ba18a89f0a16297450d.jpg

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South Florida would be uninhabitable if 20% of these models verified.


It will take more than a Cat 2 to destroy Miami


I think Mr. JLauderdale meant is so many times SFL is leveled by Hurricane model runs and if only 20% those really happened then SFL would be leveled...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#609 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:32 pm

NDG wrote:All I know is that the EPS shows a strong narrow ridge to the north of 92L as it tracks through the Antilles to later grow stronger over Bermuda as the trough lifts to the north. Unfortunately this means a threat to the US of whatever becomes of 92L.

https://i.imgur.com/81txuCY.gif


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ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#610 Postby WeatherEmperor » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:35 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
NDG wrote:All I know is that the EPS shows a strong narrow ridge to the north of 92L as it tracks through the Antilles to later grow stronger over Bermuda as the trough lifts to the north. Unfortunately this means a threat to the US of whatever becomes of 92L.

https://i.imgur.com/81txuCY.gif


+ NAO


Correct. Look how the NAO shoots up into positive territory the first few daya of August

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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#611 Postby Jr0d » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:37 pm

The invest is moving faster and has NOT moved WNW as many of the models have shown so far. This means guidence will shift further south and west. Way too early to say that South Florida is safe.

We still need a classified system with that input going into several model runs before there is any confidence in the global models. Right now everything is guess work.

Staying weak and moving faster biases the track further south and west....definately something to watch for those of us in South Florida.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#612 Postby abk_0710 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:38 pm

Jr0d wrote:The invest is moving faster and has NOT moved WNW as many of the models have shown so far. This means guidence will shift further south and west. Way too early to say that South Florida is safe.

We still need a classified system with that input going into several model runs before there is any confidence in the global models. Right now everything is guess work.

Staying weak and moving faster biases the track further south and west....definately something to watch for those of us in South Florida.


I feel like this includes the Gulf too.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#613 Postby northjaxpro » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:40 pm

:uarrow: This is why EURO and its ensembles are the best imo to use as a guide with 92L It is showing the ridging in place in the medium term. Positive NAO has been forecasted since late last week to materialize by the beginning of August. 9l2L will likely track a bit farther south and I think it may end up in the GOM by early next week.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#614 Postby SFLcane » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:42 pm

EPS looking pretty ominous for FL if something were to indeed develop.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#615 Postby Jr0d » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:45 pm

abk_0710 wrote:
I feel like this includes the Gulf too.


Most definately.

I do not have much confidence in the global models with this storm right now. After being classified and several models runs with that information, hopefully they will offer a reasonable solution. Tough to put much faith in the models when yesterday's forecast showed the system further north and east that where it is now.

If they cant get 24 hrs close, how can one expect their 7 day forecast to be reasonable?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#616 Postby St0rmTh0r » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:49 pm

Blown Away wrote:
plasticup wrote:
jlauderdal wrote:South Florida would be uninhabitable if 20% of these models verified.


It will take more than a Cat 2 to destroy Miami


I think Mr. JLauderdale meant is so many times SFL is leveled by Hurricane model runs and if only 20% those really happened then SFL would be leveled...

I think what he means is there would be an epic storm surge from this behemoth storm that would leave south Florida uninhabitable!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#617 Postby CM2 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:52 pm

I'm having serious doubts that this thing even develops. The trend with most of the models is for a weaker and weaker storm to enter the Northern Antilles area which is gonna induce it with dry air and make it even harder to form. This is Gonzalo all over again!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#618 Postby CM2 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:58 pm

Though the GFS has been trash, what is interesting note is that for the first time in 10 runs, the trend is now back to a stronger storm than the previous run which hasn't happen in 10 runs. One thing to appreciate from models, even as trash as the GFS, is the trend they put together. Individual model runs are always garbage but the trend is always very telling.

The GFS 18z is still running so this is just the first thing I noticed in its early stages,
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#619 Postby St0rmTh0r » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:01 pm

CM2 wrote:Though the GFS has been trash, what is interesting note is that for the first time in 10 runs, the trend is now back to a stronger storm than the previous run which hasn't happen in 10 runs. One thing to appreciate from models, even as trash as the GFS, is the trend they put together. Individual model runs are always garbage but the trend is always very telling.
https://imgur.com/PLPUOQu
The GFS 18z is still running so this is just the first thing I noticed in its early stages,

Was it the GFS that showed this storm weeks ago? I remember some model run showing a massive wave like this.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 92L - Models

#620 Postby Hammy » Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:12 pm

St0rmTh0r wrote:
CM2 wrote:Though the GFS has been trash, what is interesting note is that for the first time in 10 runs, the trend is now back to a stronger storm than the previous run which hasn't happen in 10 runs. One thing to appreciate from models, even as trash as the GFS, is the trend they put together. Individual model runs are always garbage but the trend is always very telling.
https://imgur.com/PLPUOQu
The GFS 18z is still running so this is just the first thing I noticed in its early stages,

Was it the GFS that showed this storm weeks ago? I remember some model run showing a massive wave like this.


GEM (CMC) followed by the Euro--the GFS was being laughed at for not showing anything, not even the massive tropical low that's presently there.
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