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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2141 Postby Evil Jeremy » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:36 pm

AutoPenalti wrote:Huh...

https://i.imgur.com/SwaX6QJ.png


What are you seeing?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2142 Postby NDG » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:38 pm

MississippiWx wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
St0rmTh0r wrote:So that's an open wave....


Look at the recon data. No well-defined closed circulation. I.E., a wave axis. That big blob of convection does not have a surface center, yet. It's developing one now.


With all due respect, recon didn’t even go far enough west to sample the area where the center should be now.


ASCAT this morning showed that it had a dying LLC further south, with MSLPs higher than closer to eastern Hispaniola, it was also elongated like the recon indicated.

Edit, you can the effects the high mountains over Hispaniola due to the circulation on the NW quadrant.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2143 Postby Evenstar » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:47 pm

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I’m still hoping the eastern side of this stays clear of us here in the treasure coast. My wife put a sign up in my office saying “buy a generator” 3 days ago and I’ve been slacking... I’ll never here the end of it if a generator is actually necessary.


I laughed at this, only because my wife would do the same. We have one in the garage, but haven't fired it up this year (yet). Best of luck... (And go get one....)


I think I’ll take lunch around 11 and go grab one instead of the pain that’ll come if I don’t


A cautionary tale... I taped a large sign over my husband's workbench in the garage threatening violence if he didn't go buy a generator. That seemed to do the trick and we are both much happier now...
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2144 Postby AutoPenalti » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:54 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Huh...

https://i.imgur.com/SwaX6QJ.png


What are you seeing?

Orientation of the shortwave, not sure the GFS is right with the strength of the trough.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2145 Postby ScottNAtlanta » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:57 pm

JB mentioned the 15 degree rule today (I've heard it elsewhere too). A troff axis 15 degrees or more ventilates and helps strengthening...closer, you get shear.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2146 Postby WeatherEmperor » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:58 pm

The 2pm advisory is out and no watches have been issued for Florida yet. Perhaps 5pm??


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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2147 Postby psyclone » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:00 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:The 2pm advisory is out and no watches have been issued for Florida yet. Perhaps 5pm??


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unless something crazy happens you won't get watch/warning updates on intermediate advisories.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2148 Postby southportwxfan » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:07 pm

I certainly hope the GFS ensemble tracks right. As of now that black center line has it coming in right over me :eek:
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2149 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:08 pm

Some sort of pressure wave or something can be seen emanating from the SE portion of the storm. Do those typically mean anything as far as strengthening or weakening?

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2150 Postby Hurricaneman » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:10 pm

Those people from Miami to Boston need to keep an eye on this, the models want to send a hurricane through eastern North Carolina/outer banks to Long Island/New England

I for one see redevelopment of the low north of Hispaniola as we speak and this could intensify more quickly than forecast depending on shear
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2151 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:14 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:The 2pm advisory is out and no watches have been issued for Florida yet. Perhaps 5pm??


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TS Watch Key largo to Vero Beach at 5 seems reasonable, eventually ts warning and hurricane watch but never makes it to a hurricane warning for anywhere in florida
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2152 Postby stormhunter7 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:15 pm

May have to disagree with the 2pm location by NHC... looks like an eye trying to develop over the northern coast in the circulation which looks to be offshore.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2153 Postby GCANE » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:20 pm

That 925mb vort south of Haiti is getting more orange.
The vort to the east of it is getting less red.
Biggest rain rate convection is south of Hispaniola and just about between the two.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2154 Postby cp79 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:20 pm

I think the models have a grasp on this now. Definitely looking like another Dorian and Matthew where it will get dangerously close to the coast. If I had to guess, I would say it will just stay offshore just based off history. These things always seem to have minds of their own and know where The East Coast is and scare it before becoming a fish. They always hate the Bahamas though.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2155 Postby FireRat » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:21 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:
AutoPenalti wrote:Huh...

https://i.imgur.com/SwaX6QJ.png


What are you seeing?


Isaias looking kind of ominous huh. Like a buzz saw trying to spin up per that image, despite interacting with Hispaniola.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2156 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:22 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:The 2pm advisory is out and no watches have been issued for Florida yet. Perhaps 5pm??


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TS Watch Key largo to Vero Beach at 5 seems reasonable, eventually ts warning and hurricane watch but never makes it to a hurricane warning for anywhere in florida


Wouldn't be surprised to see the TS Watch in the NW Bahamas get upgrades to a Hurricane Warning at 5 pm too.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2157 Postby GCANE » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:24 pm

The anti-cyclone is over the high rain-rate convection south of Hispaniola.
The convection north of Hispaniola is running into heavy shear.

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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2158 Postby aspen » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:24 pm

stormhunter7 wrote:May have to disagree with the 2pm location by NHC... looks like an eye trying to develop over the northern coast in the circulation which looks to be offshore.

I agree. Looks like the actual center is either on or just a little off of the coast, around 19.5N/69.7W.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2159 Postby Jr0d » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:25 pm

jlauderdal wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:The 2pm advisory is out and no watches have been issued for Florida yet. Perhaps 5pm??


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TS Watch Key largo to Vero Beach at 5 seems reasonable, eventually ts warning and hurricane watch but never makes it to a hurricane warning for anywhere in florida


Im thinking further norrth, at least to Cape Caneveral. Unless there is new model data that trends more west, I think Key Largo will be the start. Doubtful I will see a watch in here in Key West.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2160 Postby cp79 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:26 pm

The center is just going to stay north of the hurricane graveyard which are the high mountains in Hispaniola which have destroyed many a storm. The north of the island isn’t that bad. Some mountains but not nearly the elevation as those on the west central side.

This means intensification which should also mean a more easterly track like the GFS/Euro have it. A weak storm ripped apart wouldn’t feel the influence of the trough as much and would prolly Have even gotten into the Gulf.
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