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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2061 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:05 pm

Canelaw99 wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:RECON showing 592 heights VS the models showing 591mb ridging north of the bahamas.

Doesn’t seem like much of a difference ???


1-2mbs can be quite significant in these close call situations. It probably buys an extra 3-6hrs NW motion rather than northerly and that may be the difference between a near miss and a landfall.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2062 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:13 pm

ICON is a good 75 miles SW of 12z at 48 hours..
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2063 Postby caneseddy » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:15 pm

ICON landfalls in Miami-Dade/Broward identical to the NAM.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2064 Postby Powellrm » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:28 pm

If I’m not mistaken, the CMC tends to do a pretty good job of sniffing out these ridges that ultimately impact steering. CMC pointed towards a strong westerly shift before the rest, no? Very interesting.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2065 Postby BobHarlem » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:46 pm

18z GFS scrapes south of the 12z and slightly stronger. Around Fort Pierce. then up through cape canaveral
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2066 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:48 pm

GFS is SW and stronger.. comes ashore near west plam.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2067 Postby WeatherEmperor » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:48 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:GFS is SW and stronger.. comes ashore near west plam.


In your opinion, what is the best estimate of intensity at landfall?
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2068 Postby ronjon » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:50 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:GFS is SW and stronger.. comes ashore near west plam.


Let's see where the 18z Euro ends up. GFS only slightly shifted west from 12z.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2069 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:51 pm

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Aric Dunn wrote:GFS is SW and stronger.. comes ashore near west plam.


In your opinion, what is the best estimate of intensity at landfall?


pressure look slike 994.. so at the very least the same intensity as it is right now.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2070 Postby Aric Dunn » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:52 pm

ronjon wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:GFS is SW and stronger.. comes ashore near west plam.


Let's see where the 18z Euro ends up. GFS only slightly shifted west from 12z.


key thing with the GFS is it stronger and still SW. meaning ridging is stronger.. only half the data is in the 18z models as well.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2071 Postby St0rmTh0r » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:01 pm

There have been numerous posts about the +NAO combined with models undergoing ridges and overdoing troughs this outcome was inevitable
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2072 Postby TheDreamTraveler » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:11 pm

St0rmTh0r wrote:There have been numerous posts about the +NAO combined with models undergoing ridges and overdoing troughs this outcome was inevitable


Yeah I never bought the deep trough the models were showing just due to the fact we've had insane ridging here for months. The eastern US has had one of its hottest July's on record and around where I live its barely rained for 2 months. It just seemed too perfect having a deep digging trough come in at just the right time to send this north before hitting Florida. Not saying florida getting hit is guaranteed but it's looking likely the center at least brushes the coast now.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2073 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:13 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
ronjon wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:GFS is SW and stronger.. comes ashore near west plam.


Let's see where the 18z Euro ends up. GFS only slightly shifted west from 12z.


key thing with the GFS is it stronger and still SW. meaning ridging is stronger.. only half the data is in the 18z models as well.


And the 18z GFS pretty much rides the coast or just offshore all the way up to Jacksonville, a westward trend in that area as well.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2074 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:18 pm

NDG wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
ronjon wrote:
Let's see where the 18z Euro ends up. GFS only slightly shifted west from 12z.


key thing with the GFS is it stronger and still SW. meaning ridging is stronger.. only half the data is in the 18z models as well.


And the 18z GFS pretty much rides the coast or just offshore all the way up to Jacksonville, a westward trend in that area as well.


Yeah I saw that NDG and that run is similar to the latest EURO, which takes Isaias a bit inland as it traverses up the coast on Sunday.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2075 Postby SFLcane » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:28 pm

Waiting on 18z Euro...
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2076 Postby NDG » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:29 pm

Winds picking up at Nassau, this will be a nice HD webcam to watch as Isaias passes by.

https://www.portnassauwebcam.com/
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2077 Postby chaser1 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:30 pm

I know.... it's "the NAM. Last night's 0Z run had the storm ride just offshore from South to North. 6Z & 12Z today, bring the storm in around Boca, and exit the state near JAX. 18Z run this afternoon brings the storm ashore around Miami and exits near JAX. No sign of weakening ridge anytime soon per that model.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2078 Postby JPmia » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:36 pm

NDG wrote:Winds picking up at Nassau, this will be a nice HD webcam to watch as Isaias passes by.

https://www.portnassauwebcam.com/


The Palm Beach and Fort Lauderdale cams might get interesting too tomorrow!
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2079 Postby gatorcane » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:46 pm

One thing I am pretty sure of, probably won’t end up far from where the Euro has it. The model is really good in this timeframe. Landfalls in Boca Raton / Deerfield it looks like.
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Re: ATL: ISAIAS - Models

#2080 Postby HurricaneFrances04 » Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:51 pm

Happy Hour GFS ensembles look slightly east, but look stronger. Looks like maybe 2 members miss Florida just to the east, and a few ride I-95 through the Space Coast.
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