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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#121 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:12 pm

132 hours on GFS has this spinning down in the BoC.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#122 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:19 pm

18Z GFS ends up bringing a remnant low over toward northern State of Vera Cruz Tuesday morning. Not much to see there.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#123 Postby South Texas Storms » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:33 pm

I would love to see what the hurricane models (HWRF and HMON) do with this invest. Not sure why they haven't run for this system yet...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#124 Postby CyclonicFury » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:49 pm

The Euro has been REMARKABLY consistent with this NOT developing.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#125 Postby stormlover2013 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:24 pm

Icon has tropical storm strong in middle of gulf
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#126 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:40 pm

Insanity!


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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#127 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:52 pm

That's wild. Who knows? ICON said they'd be around to begin with, so maybe? Probably not? ICON insists again on weakening at the end. IDK. You'd think something going into the extreme NW Gulf wouldn't be losing that much punch there. But it's got a 950 offshore of SW FL on a random track. So something's up with that run. If you look at it at 500mb, it doesn't make sense. We're inside a week now regardless if 97l ever does anything or not.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#128 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:55 pm

Seems like it's the Euro/GFS against everybody else at this point--even the NAM is developing it (and it's generally been a good model with genesis, even if the 3km goes a bit crazy with intensity)
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#129 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:03 pm

Haha. GFS does have 2 sub 1010mb low pressures at 108 hours. So maybe it's trying hard? But then 114 comes in and they aren't well depicted. lol

landfalls in Vera Cruz as not much.. CMC next.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#130 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:35 pm

Canadian in da hau, eh? Last run it kicked 97L down toward Mexico and 98L came in over top and hit LA. Who knows? Both systems are mysteries at the moment.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#131 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:39 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#132 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:55 pm

South Texas Storms wrote:I would love to see what the hurricane models (HWRF and HMON) do with this invest. Not sure why they haven't run for this system yet...


HMON is running right now on 97l

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#133 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:32 am



Doubt that would happen. Most likely, the storm on the right (would be major Hurricane Laura) would shear the storm on the left (Tropical Storm Marco) to death.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#134 Postby 3090 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:07 am

Steve wrote:Canadian in da hau, eh? Last run it kicked 97L down toward Mexico and 98L came in over top and hit LA. Who knows? Both systems are mysteries at the moment.
https://i.imgur.com/ckGpvZX.png


Mysteries? Who knows?

Both systems are on track and have been moving along just as the pros (NHC), have stated. No surprises.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#135 Postby kevin » Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:28 am

00z HWRF seems to have a strong tropical storm landfall near the Florida Pandhandle just after the end of its run.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#136 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:35 am

Massive difference in GFS and GFS-Para.

120 hrs out:
GFS-Para has a 990mb low over Cancun.
GFS nothing.
GFS-Para is going with a little more robust Rossby wave.
GFS-Para showing a strong TPW infeed. GFS not.

162 hrs out:
GFS-Para slams Houston at about 956 mb.
GFS nothing.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#137 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:43 am

CMC, NAVGEM, and GFS-Para are pretty close.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#138 Postby SconnieCane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:56 am

Ouch, CMC hits the same spot that got Hanna. Interestingly all of them are relatively weak with the implied eventual TC out of 98L, although they seem to be taking it north of the GA.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#139 Postby GCANE » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:00 am

84 hrs out.

NAM showing a more robust Rossby Wave but a more unstable GoM as compared to GFS.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 97L - Models

#140 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:02 am

CrazyC83 wrote:


Doubt that would happen. Most likely, the storm on the right (would be major Hurricane Laura) would shear the storm on the left (Tropical Storm Marco) to death.


Good to know. I don’t want to ever see 2 storms in the gulf together.
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