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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#801 Postby toad strangler » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:10 pm

12z Euro slightly more defined wave than at 00z @72hrs. That's not saying much though.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#802 Postby Blown Away » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:11 pm

12z Euro 72hrs... The HP looks slightly weaker than the 12z run a few days ago when 98L blew up and went E of FL...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#803 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:15 pm

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#804 Postby toad strangler » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:15 pm

12z EURO sends 98L N of the big islands but no development once again through 96hrs
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#805 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:16 pm

Poof on the euro.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#806 Postby tiger_deF » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:16 pm

If this system ends up forming in the next day or two, it would be a pretty epic bust for King Eurro
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#807 Postby eastcoastFL » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:18 pm

Euro bahama blob
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#808 Postby Shell Mound » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:19 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:Interesting look from the 12z GEFS Ensembles... :think:

https://i.imgur.com/sG0Bd1o.gif

Note that the strongest members indicate a turn to the NW, N, and eventually NE beginning near the Turks and Caicos Islands. Additionally, ridging on both the 12Z GFS and ECMWF runs is notably weaker than previously indicated. If 98L is sufficiently intense in the short term, it could not only miss the Leeward Islands and Puerto Rico to the north, but also curve OTS between the U.S. East Coast and Bermuda, after bypassing the Turks and Caicos Islands. I have consistently maintained that 98L will likely become an intense hurricane in about six or seven days, and that it will either a) head WNW into South FL or b) curve OTS. In each case the Turks and Caicos Islands will serve as a key benchmark.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#809 Postby WeatherEmperor » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:19 pm

Why is the Euro showing nothing if it takes 98L north of the islands avoiding all land interaction? Does it show shear/dry air issues???


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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#810 Postby SouthFLTropics » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:19 pm

Call me confused but I just don't see why the Euro wouldn't spin this up if it avoids the big islands. What does it see that we aren't seeing. Maybe dry air. I don't know.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#811 Postby storminabox » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:20 pm

caneseddy wrote:HMON finishes its run as a major hurricane about to landfall in Miami.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/hmon/2020081912/hmon_ref_98L_42.png


That would be bad for me considering that I’m studying at the University of Miami. Only 5 days out too if this verifies.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#812 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:23 pm

The 12Z HWRF is keeping it a hurricane over the high mountainous terrain of Eastern Cuba. That is when you know the model has problems.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#813 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:23 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:Why is the Euro showing nothing if it takes 98L north of the islands avoiding all land interaction? Does it show shear/dry air issues???


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Beyond me. But it does it keep it north of the islands now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#814 Postby DestinHurricane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:24 pm

IMHO Euro is out smoking a joint. I'll take the NHC forecast over any model.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#815 Postby sma10 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:25 pm

WeatherEmperor wrote:Why is the Euro showing nothing if it takes 98L north of the islands avoiding all land interaction? Does it show shear/dry air issues???


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Very odd. The no development in this run really doesnt have much to do with the islands. In fact, the track looks very similar to CMC, ICON, HMON ... but no development at all
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#816 Postby gatorcane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:26 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:Call me confused but I just don't see why the Euro wouldn't spin this up if it avoids the big islands. What does it see that we aren't seeing. Maybe dry air. I don't know.


My guess is too much dry and stable air around it. Isaias had the same problem in the Bahamas if you recall. I am just looking at the GFS graphics to take that guess since we don’t have access to the same Euro charts.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#817 Postby Kazmit » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:27 pm

I think it's highly unlikely this remains an open wave it it misses the islands to the north...
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#818 Postby ConvergenceZone » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:27 pm

gatorcane wrote:The 12Z HWRF is keeping it a hurricane over the high mountainous terrain of Eastern Cuba. That is when you know the model has problems.


And then you have the Euro that’s on crack that doesn’t show ANY land interaction and acts like it’s July and yet doesn’t do anything with it. Some dry air, sure, but not enough to impede development. If we get a depression today and a storm tomorrow, Euro will already be in EPIC failure mode
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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#819 Postby caneseddy » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:28 pm

SFLcane wrote:
WeatherEmperor wrote:Why is the Euro showing nothing if it takes 98L north of the islands avoiding all land interaction? Does it show shear/dry air issues???


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Beyond me. But it does it keep it north of the islands now.


And I think that should be one of the the key takeaway of these runs. The majority of modeling, including the Euro now have this going north of the islands. Excepting the GFS, HWRF and i believe UKMET

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Re: ATL: INVEST 98L - Models

#820 Postby SFLcane » Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:29 pm

gatorcane wrote:
SouthFLTropics wrote:Call me confused but I just don't see why the Euro wouldn't spin this up if it avoids the big islands. What does it see that we aren't seeing. Maybe dry air. I don't know.


My guess is too much dry and stable air around it. Isaias had the same problem in the Bahamas if you recall. I am just looking at the GFS graphics to take that guess since we don’t have access to the same Euro charts.

https://i.postimg.cc/1XPKpn62/gfs-mid-RH-watl-17.png


RH not a problem on the Euro in the Bahamas.
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