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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#741 Postby ThetaE » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:18 pm

Honestly I like the look of TD 14 more than Laura. Laura has gross structural problems to work out. This has a clear LLC which has had shallow (and some attempted deep) convection really fill in over the last few hours. And flipping through the SSEC 925-500mb vorticity plots shows that TD 14 is far better stacked than Laura. I have a feeling this storm will begin to intensify over the next 24 hours, and the more it continues to drift north, the less interaction with Yucatan.

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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#742 Postby MGC » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:27 pm

TD14 appears to have established a singular circulation center north-east of Roatan Island. Looks to be moving towards the NNW with convection starting to form near the center. Should start to ramp up and should be a TS by the time of landfall along the Yucatan near Cozumel......MGC
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#743 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:09 pm

That trough is still digging. At what point is it supposed to start weakening? Doesn't look like 14 has a whole lot of time left to work with.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#744 Postby davidiowx » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:13 pm

HurricaneEnzo wrote:That trough is still digging. At what point is it supposed to start weakening? Doesn't look like 14 has a whole lot of time left to work with.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24


I’m no expert but it looks to me the trough is shifting NE fairly quickly. And the dry air is being pushed out to the W of the Yucatan.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#745 Postby HurricaneEnzo » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:26 pm

davidiowx wrote:
HurricaneEnzo wrote:That trough is still digging. At what point is it supposed to start weakening? Doesn't look like 14 has a whole lot of time left to work with.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24


I’m no expert but it looks to me the trough is shifting NE fairly quickly. And the dry air is being pushed out to the W of the Yucatan.


Yeah you may be right on that. I looked at a different loop that seems to be the case.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#746 Postby TeamPlayersBlue » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:33 pm

Need this storm to stay remain as a depression when it hits the Yucatan.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#747 Postby xironman » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:38 pm

Looks like convection is finally building near the center. It has a huge job to wipe out the patch of low level dry air, and it seems close to doing that.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#748 Postby aspen » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:38 pm

TD14 has had some improvements today, and changes that are going to really mess up track and intensity forecasts.

The original center was located just NE of a half-ring of convection that was sitting around the Central American coast. However, that center has been migrating north towards the convection that popped up closer to Cuba. The CA convection has collapsed, and on its beeline to the north, the swirl has been obscured by some small batches of convection. This due north motion might continue until the convection and CoC are aligned, so now a path between the Yucatán Peninsula and Cuba is a growing possibility. This would reduce land interaction, but I don’t know if a more N path would put TD14 into more or less favorable conditions in the Gulf of Mexico. SSTs are going to be 29-31 C regardless of where it goes.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#749 Postby LSU Saint » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:44 pm

Is this beginning to shy away from a beeline to Houston?
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#750 Postby northjaxpro » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:47 pm

HurricaneEnzo wrote:That trough is still digging. At what point is it supposed to start weakening? Doesn't look like 14 has a whole lot of time left to work with.

http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... display=24



This ìs a very anomalously deep trough for August into the Western and Central GOM.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#751 Postby lrak » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:56 pm

LSU Saint wrote:Is this beginning to shy away from a beeline to Houston?


All of our local METS are saying still keep an eye on it due to uncertainty. So stay "tuned" LOL...not sure if they are saying that for the local commercials. $$$

Something to due with where the future high pressure will be located as it approaches. Hanna got squashed during the approach and went due west or WSW for a while before landfall.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#752 Postby SoupBone » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:59 pm

lrak wrote:
LSU Saint wrote:Is this beginning to shy away from a beeline to Houston?


All of our local METS are saying still keep an eye on it due to uncertainty. So stay "tuned" LOL...not sure if they are saying that for the local commercials. $$$


That's because there are solutions all over from Tex/Mex to Central Lousiana still. No one knows basically.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#753 Postby lrak » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:00 pm

SoupBone wrote:
lrak wrote:
LSU Saint wrote:Is this beginning to shy away from a beeline to Houston?


All of our local METS are saying still keep an eye on it due to uncertainty. So stay "tuned" LOL...not sure if they are saying that for the local commercials. $$$


That's because there are solutions all over from Tex/Mex to Central Lousiana still. No one knows basically.



OH NO....I thought I could relax....thanks for the heads up SoupBone!!! Just want surf and rain no damage...keeping fingers crossed.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#754 Postby SoupBone » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:04 pm

lrak wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
lrak wrote:
All of our local METS are saying still keep an eye on it due to uncertainty. So stay "tuned" LOL...not sure if they are saying that for the local commercials. $$$


That's because there are solutions all over from Tex/Mex to Central Lousiana still. No one knows basically.



OH NO....I thought I could relax....thanks for the heads up SoupBone!!! Just want surf and rain no damage...keeping fingers crossed.


You need to head to the models thread. :lol:

GFS shows a Tex/Mex sloppy system, HMON/HWRF shows some Central Lousiana action, and the Euro shows sloppy mess for Corpus Christi.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#755 Postby Nederlander » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:08 pm

Looking better by the hour. Convection bubbling right over the llc and trying to get it’s CDO established. Could make a run at a Hurricane prior to Cozumel/Yucatán if the trend continues - it is getting into some pretty warm water.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#756 Postby lrak » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:11 pm

SoupBone wrote:
lrak wrote:
SoupBone wrote:
That's because there are solutions all over from Tex/Mex to Central Lousiana still. No one knows basically.



OH NO....I thought I could relax....thanks for the heads up SoupBone!!! Just want surf and rain no damage...keeping fingers crossed.


You need to head to the models thread. :lol:

GFS shows a Tex/Mex sloppy system, HMON/HWRF shows some Central Lousiana action, and the Euro shows sloppy mess for Corpus Christi.


Craziness....if these models are correct then I will continue to monitor over the weekend. Already patched my board so "she's" water tight now.

Visited Tropical Tidbits and WOW absolutely correct SoupBone!!!! :x
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#757 Postby HoustonFrog » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:29 pm

Why are there so many more posts in the Laura threads than this one? Just curious
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#758 Postby ATCcane » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:32 pm

HoustonFrog wrote:Why are there so many more posts in the Laura threads than this one? Just curious



Lots more Floridians than Texans on this board.
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Re: ATL: FOURTEEN - Tropical Depression - Discussion

#759 Postby loon » Fri Aug 21, 2020 2:49 pm

ATCcane wrote:
HoustonFrog wrote:Why are there so many more posts in the Laura threads than this one? Just curious



Lots more Floridians than Texans on this board.


May or may not be true, but for now the uncertainty of TX landfall is MX to NOLA almost and i think most of us are just holding our breath
until its closer or guidance comes in cleaner hah.
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