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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#861 Postby Hammy » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:47 am

Starting to show up on Cuban radar

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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#862 Postby Steve » Sat Aug 22, 2020 2:16 am

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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#863 Postby 3090 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:42 am

Looking at the current water vapor imagery, I do not see Marco changing course all that much until it enters the south central GOM. It appears it will split the Yucatan channel; far east of where it has been projected to pass, before entering the GOM. All said, Marco is going to suddenly bend left with the building high pressure. It will certainly depend on timing, as to how close he gets to any coast line and his size, before he makes landfall. He could get very close (outer edge) to the SWLA coast, before bending back into Texas, near Galveston, IMO. The timing of the high pressure is critical.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#864 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:05 am

Anticyclone Rossby Wave Break (ARWB) has developed east of the Rossby Wave.
Center is NE of the CoC.
Not ideal for rapid strengthening.
To get more aligned, deep convection needs to develop over the CoC and the Rossby Wave needs to degrade.
Actually, the Rossby Wave looks a little better this morning than last night.
Convection is firing over the CoC now.
Marco seems to be walking a tight rope if intensification can continue and if so by how much.
The big key is if deep convection can fire and push the Rossby wave out of the way.


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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#865 Postby Hammy » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:16 am

:uarrow: Is that the same anticyclone Laura's expected to find itself under in the GoM in a few days? :eek:

And it looks like we might have a mid-level eye forming. Next recon mission will certainly be interesting.

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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#866 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:23 am

Hammy wrote::uarrow: Is that the same anticyclone Laura's expected to find itself under in the GoM in a few days? :eek:

And it looks like we might have a mid-level eye forming. Next recon mission will certainly be interesting.

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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#867 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:27 am

Recon descending
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#868 Postby xironman » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:36 am

They should find something stronger 42056 is at 1005.4 east of the center.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#869 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:39 am

Latest AMSU Sounder thermal-profile analysis shows no warm core yet.
However, cold to about 500mb.
This shows a strong lapse rate which supports a good updraft for convection.
Also, CoC now sitting in CAPE values that support strong convective development.
The so called dry-air that has been hampering thunderstorm development is no longer an issue.
Chances of hot towers firing off have increased quite a bit.

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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#870 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:43 am

xironman wrote:They should find something stronger 42056 is at 1005.4 east of the center.


Stronger winds mean more heat exchange from the water to the air.
Starts the whole intensification machine going.
This is some very hot and deep water.
Basically going to be riding over the loop current.

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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#871 Postby xironman » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:51 am

The gulfstream mission is finding robust upper level winds north of Marco, it may be impacted by shear sooner than later.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#872 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:59 am

Looks like the anticyclone is sneaking up on Marco from behind.
Looks like Marco maybe starting to win over the Rossby Wave.
Watch out if the anticyclone gets ahead of Macro.

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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#873 Postby 3090 » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:10 am

xironman wrote:The gulfstream mission is finding robust upper level winds north of Marco, it may be impacted by shear sooner than later.


Thus my statement earlier, about his immediate track!

WV imagery in the GOM is very telling. Do not see Marco plowing into/thru that shear and heading towards Texas any time soon.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#874 Postby tiger_deF » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:14 am

Recon finding sub 1000 mb pressure and nearly 60 kt flight level wind, wind profile of Marco is lopsided but robust
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#875 Postby Portastorm » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:15 am

3090 wrote:
xironman wrote:The gulfstream mission is finding robust upper level winds north of Marco, it may be impacted by shear sooner than later.


Thus my statement earlier, about his immediate track!

WV imagery in the GOM is very telling. Do not see Marco plowing into/thru that shear and heading towards Texas any time soon.


It's not supposed to anyhow per the NHC guidance and track.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#876 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:17 am

GFS is now also showing the breakdown of the Rossby Wave in 24 hrs
Interesting scenario as Macro reinforces the ARWB in the GoM and Laura tracks into it.
Could be a 1-2 punch for the Houston area.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#877 Postby Nimbus » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:24 am

tiger_deF wrote:Recon finding sub 1000 mb pressure and nearly 60 kt flight level wind, wind profile of Marco is lopsided but robust


Marco is shooting the gap and the relatively slow forward speed the models are predicting means more time for that trough to weaken. I think the trough is eventually forecast to tilt back west keeping the warm moist shear blowing toward Houston?
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#878 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:24 am

Very heavy rain fall rate now being seen on satellite.
Recon measuring 33 mm/hr so far.
Anything in the 50+ range and Macro goes up a notch.
In the clear 55-knot flight level winds from Recon.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#879 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:27 am

Big MCS firing over TX.
Going to take another chunk out of the Rossby Wave.
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Re: ATL: MARCO - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#880 Postby GCANE » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:29 am

GCANE wrote:Big MCS firing over TX.
Going to take another chunk out of the Rossby Wave.


MCS is tracking into high CAPE.
It'll blow up soon.
Could be the one that really starts to nail the Rossby Wave.
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