ATL: LAURA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3041 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:43 am

Did a new center form ?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3042 Postby Hurricaneman » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:44 am

stormlover2013 wrote:Did a new center form ?


According to ASCAT yes, half way between Cuba and Jamaica
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3043 Postby wx98 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:53 am

Back in the Caribbean:
2:00 AM EDT Mon Aug 24
Location: 20.5°N 78.0°W
Moving: WNW at 21 mph
Min pressure: 1000 mb
Max sustained: 65 mph
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3044 Postby Shell Mound » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:55 am

wx98 wrote:Back in the Caribbean:
2:00 AM EDT Mon Aug 24
Location: 20.5°N 78.0°W
Moving: WNW at 21 mph
Min pressure: 1000 mb
Max sustained: 65 mph

Hmm...why did the NHC apparently ignore ASCAT and side with the location of the old LLC? Radar, satellite, and surface observations support relocation.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3045 Postby wx98 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:56 am

Hurricaneman wrote:
stormlover2013 wrote:Did a new center form ?


According to ASCAT yes, half way between Cuba and Jamaica

NHC maintaining advisories on the old LLC which passed through the mountains and has re-entered the water now.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3046 Postby Hammy » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:56 am

wx98 wrote:Back in the Caribbean:
2:00 AM EDT Mon Aug 24
Location: 20.5°N 78.0°W
Moving: WNW at 21 mph
Min pressure: 1000 mb
Max sustained: 65 mph


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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3047 Postby wx98 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:57 am

Shell Mound wrote:
wx98 wrote:Back in the Caribbean:
2:00 AM EDT Mon Aug 24
Location: 20.5°N 78.0°W
Moving: WNW at 21 mph
Min pressure: 1000 mb
Max sustained: 65 mph

Hmm...why did the NHC apparently ignore ASCAT and side with the location of the old LLC? Radar, satellite, and surface observations support relocation.

I’m sure they know what they are doing. They nearly always do.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3048 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:59 am

A second ASCAT pass also supports a position around 19.6N 78.0W (this image was at 03Z).

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3049 Postby Keldeo1997 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:05 am

 https://twitter.com/DerekOrtt/status/1297771158088163329




Derek is not buying that its a relocation
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3050 Postby wx98 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:08 am

Keldeo1997 wrote:https://twitter.com/DerekOrtt/status/1297771158088163329

Derek is not buying that its a relocation

Neither is NHC...
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3051 Postby Kingarabian » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:09 am

00z Euro hour 72. Landfall will be close near the TX/LA border. 976mb.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3052 Postby jaxfladude » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:12 am

Keldeo1997 wrote:https://twitter.com/DerekOrtt/status/1297771158088163329

Derek is not buying that its a relocation


may this be the start of some good and needed news and a weaker Laura throughout her future track...this system has already done enough damage and sadly deaths if reports are confirmed...
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3053 Postby Shell Mound » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:12 am

wx98 wrote:
Shell Mound wrote:
wx98 wrote:Back in the Caribbean:
2:00 AM EDT Mon Aug 24
Location: 20.5°N 78.0°W
Moving: WNW at 21 mph
Min pressure: 1000 mb
Max sustained: 65 mph

Hmm...why did the NHC apparently ignore ASCAT and side with the location of the old LLC? Radar, satellite, and surface observations support relocation.

I’m sure they know what they are doing. They nearly always do.

Maybe the NHC is waiting for persistence. Usually the NHC likes to sit back and observe before declaring an official reformation.
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Keldeo1997 wrote:https://twitter.com/DerekOrtt/status/1297771158088163329

Derek is not buying that its a relocation


may this be the start of some good and needed news and a weaker Laura throughout her future track

...on the basis of a sole report?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3054 Postby Visioen » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:13 am

Not a 100%, but looks like this post might age pretty well :double:
Visioen wrote:I'm thinking about a worst case scenario where the LLC smashes itself against the hight terrain on the eastern side of Cuba, after which a new one forms under the convection of the MLC and the system goes just south of Cuba over the extremely warm waters there. Not saying this will happen, just a hypothetical scenario that seems possible to me.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3055 Postby Hurricane Mike » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:13 am

As of 2am, Laura is now over the Caribbean Sea south of eastern Cuba. Looks like Stewart has the 5am discussion.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3056 Postby Shell Mound » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:19 am

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3057 Postby jaxfladude » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:24 am

Shell Mound wrote:
wx98 wrote:
Shell Mound wrote:Hmm...why did the NHC apparently ignore ASCAT and side with the location of the old LLC? Radar, satellite, and surface observations support relocation.

I’m sure they know what they are doing. They nearly always do.

Maybe the NHC is waiting for persistence. Usually the NHC likes to sit back and observe before declaring an official reformation.
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Keldeo1997 wrote:https://twitter.com/DerekOrtt/status/1297771158088163329

Derek is not buying that its a relocation


may this be the start of some good and needed news and a weaker Laura throughout her future track

...on the basis of a sole report?


"MAY this be...."
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3058 Postby Hammy » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:27 am

wx98 wrote:
Keldeo1997 wrote:https://twitter.com/DerekOrtt/status/1297771158088163329

Derek is not buying that its a relocation

Neither is NHC...


Pass was almost four hours ago, it may have bounced offshore and then reformed outside the convection thanks to the terrain--stuff like this has happened with storms passing Hawaii as well.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3059 Postby sponger » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:29 am

I have no idea what Ortt is talking about, it seems a pretty clear and definitive center relocation based on ASCAT. We are in big trouble. Ignore all models until later this morning. The 2pm Euro is going to be a critical one for evac plans. The zoo begins Tuesday.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#3060 Postby stormlover2013 » Mon Aug 24, 2020 1:30 am

So nhc adjust track back west ?
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