ATL: LAURA - Post-Tropical - Discussion

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4841 Postby HurricaneEdouard » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:53 pm

supercane4867 wrote:11PM advisory bumped peak intensity to 105kt

Still conservative, IMO.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4842 Postby Blinhart » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:55 pm

Landfall looks like Holley Beach
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4843 Postby Highteeld » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:56 pm

NHC is leaving room for a cat 4 landfall i'd reckon
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4844 Postby cfisher » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:57 pm

I think minimum pressure matters more than wind speed for Laura because it will determine the type of surge we see.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4845 Postby Blinhart » Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:59 pm

supercane4867 wrote:11PM advisory bumped peak intensity to 105kt


But that line is a couple hours from landfall, so if she is continuously strengthening up to landfall, there is a chance she could get to 130 -135 MPH before landfall.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4846 Postby MarioProtVI » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:00 pm

According to the discussion they upped to 80 kt because they’re getting data from an AF flight that for some reason is not transmitting publicly.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4847 Postby Hammy » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:02 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:According to the discussion they upped to 80 kt because they’re getting data from an AF flight that for some reason is not transmitting publicly.


Last update on TT is from 7 minutes ago and the plane had just passed the center so they're probably receiving the data in real time rather than in the ten minute blocks the public is. More than likely the plane reached the eastern eyewall in time for the advisory but midway through the data section thats released.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4848 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:02 pm

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supercane4867 wrote:11PM advisory bumped peak intensity to 105kt

Still conservative, IMO.


They mentioned in the discussion it could rapidly intensify 25-30kts in 24 hours. That's scary enough but truthfully it could easily be more. No matter how we look at it none of this is good news. Folks need to have their preps and Evacs done by tomorrow afternoon. This is not a drill
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4849 Postby wkwally » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:02 pm

I am still not going to let my guard down until after landfall as a little wobble to the west or east could mean a big change for this area.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4850 Postby KC7NEC » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:06 pm

Im very concerned the refineries at Port Arthur will be the major story after this storm.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4851 Postby Kingarabian » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:08 pm

MarioProtVI wrote:According to the discussion they upped to 80 kt because they’re getting data from an AF flight that for some reason is not transmitting publicly.

Quite odd that the AF plane is not transmitting publicly.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4852 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:09 pm

77 knots unflagged in eastern eyewall. NHC received this info real time and made the jump to 90mph.
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#4853 Postby cfisher » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:09 pm

Strengthening might be on pause until it can shrink the RMW.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4854 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:09 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:
Steve wrote:
TheStormExpert wrote:Maybe some shear before landfall?

https://twitter.com/derekortt/status/1298414130404171779


It’s along the TX coastline. I don’t see any impacts until possibly the very end of the over water track.


And by then I think its forecast to start pulling away as she's coming in. I guess it's all about timing


It was supposed to back up enough for Marco to get going too. It was a little more pesky though. It left a piece back that was spinning and split back but the trough kind of only slowly migrated west and held Marco at bay and even sheared the top off and continues to do so even now. Marco partially went under the eastern edge of the high clouds moving NE along the trough edge as you could see at the end of daylight visible. But he was pulling SW to S at that point and is at a much lower steering level than the east side flow. You know the sw flow was strong with the storms it had Marco firing 100-200 miles to the northeast this afternoon. We only have a day and 3 hours until landfall. And with the east edge of the trough adjacent and even part of the boundary of the anticyclone over Laura, how much can it pull back now? I don’t know. I’m not trying to make or refute the argument either way. I’m just observing. Lots of lightning with that first outer band to our south. Many many strikes.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4855 Postby eastcoastFL » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:10 pm

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4856 Postby Blinhart » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:11 pm

KC7NEC wrote:Im very concerned the refineries at Port Arthur will be the major story after this storm.


Those are built to Miami standards, so I don't think they will be that much of a problem. Most refineries have been retrofitted since all the past Major Hurricanes. They also have procedures that limit the risk of Environmental Hazards.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4857 Postby Nimbus » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:12 pm

Recon just took a center fix very near Levi Cohen's 25N -90W benchmark for the Galveston island VS LA border landfall debate. might be a stair step jog to the north later this morning?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4858 Postby Blinhart » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:13 pm

Steve wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:
Steve wrote:
It’s along the TX coastline. I don’t see any impacts until possibly the very end of the over water track.


And by then I think its forecast to start pulling away as she's coming in. I guess it's all about timing


It was supposed to back up enough for Marco to get going too. It was a little more pesky though. It left a piece back that was spinning and split back but the trough kind of only slowly migrated west and held Marco at bay and even sheared the top off and continues to do so even now. Marco partially went under the eastern edge of the high clouds moving NE alone the trough edge as you could see at the end of daylight visible. But he was pulling SW to S at that point and is at a much lower steering level than the east side flow. You know the sw flow was strong with the storm and firing 100-200 miles to the northeast this afternoon. We only have a day and 3 hours until landfall. And with the east edge of the trough adjacent and even part of the boundary of the anticyclone over Laura, how much can it pull back now? I don’t know. I’m not trying to make or refute the argument either way. I’m just observing. Lots of lightning with that first outer band to our south. Many many strikes.


Steve are you saying what I think you are saying, East of state line?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#4859 Postby ConvergenceZone » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:14 pm

Blinhart wrote:
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FixySLN wrote:Forsee gradual eastern shifts in the forecast due to future sheer, shape, and intensity.

Friendly reminder than I'm NOT a pro met and my OPINION should NOT be taken as gospel. Please follow the instruction of your local government.



I don't know if this is truly the case though. I haven't heard it mentioned once on the weather channel that if the storm intensified significantly then the track will go more east. I mean that's pretty big, so I think that would be mentioned if that were the case.......


No because they want to make sure Houston is prepared just in case it doesn't end up at the state line or East of there. They don't want to look bad. All the latest models I have seen has shown a slight East shift.


That's good from a strength standpoint, as that means quicker landfall and less time over the open water.
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