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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5901 Postby wkwally » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:12 pm

hohnywx wrote:
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Nope. They nail it most times.

I'm just thinking of charley and how they screwed up its turn.


That was 16 years ago. Track forecasting has improved. And they are the best of the best.

However still human
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5902 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:12 pm

I just can't believe we maybe on for the 5th season in a row with a cat-5...

Still less likely than likely imo but can't deny the chances have been rapidly increasing.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5903 Postby South Texas Storms » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:13 pm

Praying for all who will be impacted by this powerful hurricane. Thankfully it looks like Houston will miss the brunt of the storm. Conditions should continue to rapidly deteriorate for areas farther east throughout the rest of today and tonight.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5904 Postby b0tzy29 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:13 pm

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5905 Postby northjaxpro » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:14 pm

PandaCitrus wrote:I'm tracking the eye on radar. On its current trajectory of the past few hours, it will make landfall well SOUTH of Galveston. There is time for it to move more northerly but I'm concerned that the unexpected strength may be pumping up the ridge more than the models expected. It is more and more likely if these trends persist that the center will pass to the west of Port Arthur and put Beaumont and that whole area on the dirty side.

Stormcenter wrote:An illusion, it’s still moving


Texashawk wrote:
I swear that eye is still moving more west than north. It's almost due south of Lake Charles. Is the storm supposed to do a 90 degree turn north at this point?


Excellent point. It is my huge concern as well with such an incredibly powerful cyclone like this one
I pray that the ridge is not being pumped more, but it is a possibility.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5906 Postby p1nheadlarry » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:14 pm

supercane4867 wrote:Eye presentation is slowly improving on IR


VRW's still churning about the center
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5907 Postby Ritzcraker » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:14 pm

cfisher wrote:Theoretically, would a stronger and more stacked storm be more inclined to move west?


No. A more stacked storm moves poleward i.e. North
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5908 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:14 pm

beyokan wrote:
Hurrilurker wrote:Pressure only 953? That's surprisingly high to me.


I noticed that as well, you think it'd be lower.
Florence (150 Mph) - 937 mb
Harvey (130 mph) - 937 mb
Joaquin (155 mph) - 931 mb
Gonzalo (145 mph) - 940 mb
The only storm I found in recent years around Laura's strength with such a relatively "high" pressure was Nicole in 2016.. wonder what the reasoning is.


High background pressures.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5909 Postby Fancy1001 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:15 pm

wkwally wrote:
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Fancy1001 wrote:I'm just thinking of charley and how they screwed up its turn.


That was 16 years ago. Track forecasting has improved. And they are the best of the best.

However still human

I know, I was just pointing out why I thought he might have been being sarcastic.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5910 Postby cheezyWXguy » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:16 pm

Ritzcraker wrote:
cfisher wrote:Theoretically, would a stronger and more stacked storm be more inclined to move west?


No. A more stacked storm moves poleward i.e. North

Normally, yes. But upper level steering patterns are more westward here due to the high pressure to the north. A stronger system is influenced more by the upper levels and would likely shift west, but it probably won't have much influence at this point.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5911 Postby cfisher » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:16 pm

A trend Laura seems to be good at: transfer energy from the NE wall into other quadrants then repair the NE wall.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5912 Postby xironman » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:16 pm

You would have to wonder with this nice a structure if it could hold on better inland.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5913 Postby sponger » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:16 pm

Fancy1001 wrote:
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Stormcenter wrote:An illusion, it’s still moving NW.




Stair stepping its way right into Galveston Bay. Going to be yet another exciting critical turn the NHC is famous for forecasting correctly.


Is that suppose to be sarcastic at the end?


Not at all! The Euro may be the king of forecasting tracks but the NHC is the king of forecasting rounding ridges and trough shunts, and has been for a long time.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5914 Postby GrayLancer18 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:17 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
beyokan wrote:
Hurrilurker wrote:Pressure only 953? That's surprisingly high to me.


I noticed that as well, you think it'd be lower.
Florence (150 Mph) - 937 mb
Harvey (130 mph) - 937 mb
Joaquin (155 mph) - 931 mb
Gonzalo (145 mph) - 940 mb
The only storm I found in recent years around Laura's strength with such a relatively "high" pressure was Nicole in 2016.. wonder what the reasoning is.


High background pressures.


So that means that Laura can reach higher wind speeds with less effort in pressure drop?
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5915 Postby Cunxi Huang » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:18 pm

Nawtamet wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
beyokan wrote:
I noticed that as well, you think it'd be lower.
Florence (150 Mph) - 937 mb
Harvey (130 mph) - 937 mb
Joaquin (155 mph) - 931 mb
Gonzalo (145 mph) - 940 mb
The only storm I found in recent years around Laura's strength with such a relatively "high" pressure was Nicole in 2016.. wonder what the reasoning is.


High background pressures.


So that means that Laura can reach higher wind speeds with less effort in pressure drop?


Could be.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5916 Postby FLpanhandle91 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:18 pm

Nawtamet wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
beyokan wrote:
I noticed that as well, you think it'd be lower.
Florence (150 Mph) - 937 mb
Harvey (130 mph) - 937 mb
Joaquin (155 mph) - 931 mb
Gonzalo (145 mph) - 940 mb
The only storm I found in recent years around Laura's strength with such a relatively "high" pressure was Nicole in 2016.. wonder what the reasoning is.


High background pressures.


So that means that Laura can reach higher wind speeds with less effort in pressure drop?


Correct.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5917 Postby Highteeld » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:18 pm

Nawtamet wrote:
Aric Dunn wrote:
beyokan wrote:
I noticed that as well, you think it'd be lower.
Florence (150 Mph) - 937 mb
Harvey (130 mph) - 937 mb
Joaquin (155 mph) - 931 mb
Gonzalo (145 mph) - 940 mb
The only storm I found in recent years around Laura's strength with such a relatively "high" pressure was Nicole in 2016.. wonder what the reasoning is.


High background pressures.


So that means that Laura can reach higher wind speeds with less effort in pressure drop?

The Euro thinks so

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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5918 Postby xironman » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:18 pm

northjaxpro wrote:
PandaCitrus wrote:I'm tracking the eye on radar. On its current trajectory of the past few hours, it will make landfall well SOUTH of Galveston. There is time for it to move more northerly but I'm concerned that the unexpected strength may be pumping up the ridge more than the models expected. It is more and more likely if these trends persist that the center will pass to the west of Port Arthur and put Beaumont and that whole area on the dirty side.

Stormcenter wrote:An illusion, it’s still moving




Excellent point. It is my huge concern as well with such an incredibly powerful cyclone like this one
I pray that the ridge is not being pumped more, but it is a possibility.


Yeah, pumping up the ridge, we have seen it, but the models should be better now.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5919 Postby Janie2006 » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:19 pm

Classic “buzz saw” look appearing. Laura is drawing in air and moisture as far away as SW Alabama and the Florida panhandle.

Anyone in the path of this hurricane...rush preps to completion and batten down the hatches.

Better yet, get out.

People are going to die should they fail to take this extremely seriously.
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Re: ATL: LAURA - Hurricane - Discussion

#5920 Postby psyclone » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:20 pm

hohnywx wrote:
Fancy1001 wrote:
FLpanhandle91 wrote:
Nope. They nail it most times.

I'm just thinking of charley and how they screwed up its turn.


That was 16 years ago. Track forecasting has improved. And they are the best of the best.


In addition Charley was a pint sized bullet. more like giant tornado. Laura is a massive steamroller
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