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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#181 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:34 am

CMC looks to be toward SE LA too, but needs to run more.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 91212&fh=6

Also HWRF and HMON are running.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#182 Postby PTPatrick » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:44 am

Canadian looks like Hancock county Mississippi judging from the cmc website (not great resolution)
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#183 Postby MGC » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:47 am

Most 12Z runs are centering on LA/MS landfall. Any one of them will put me in the mix.....MGC
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#184 Postby LowerAlabamaTider » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:53 am

With the very weak steering as it gets near the coast, and the forecast of it meandering there for maybe a couple of days these tracks are not good for SE LA, MS, SW AL & NW FL. Not good at all . . .
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#185 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:56 am

12z HWRF so far through its 33rd hr forecast is a little more south and west than previous 0z & 06z runs.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#186 Postby bella_may » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:57 am

I don’t expect any drastic shifts at this point. I think landfall somewhere between New Orleans and Orange Beach is looking pretty likely. Just my opinion
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#187 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:01 pm

HMON - not my model of choice - depicts tightening closer to landfall. 984 at 54 and south of FL/AL line.

https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysi ... 1212&fh=54
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#188 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:04 pm

HMON to 60 hours still moving NW at 978. HWRF strong out to 45 hours. 976 and dropping. This will be the next landfalling US hurricane of 2020.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#189 Postby PTPatrick » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:05 pm

Agree Grand isle to orange beach is looking most likely but that’s a wide area and The devil is in the details. Some models strengthen, some aren’t all that impressive. Weak steering at landfall will no doubt throw a wrench into things. The gulf seems to be fertile ground the last year or so, so I’m anxiously waiting more model runs. Hwrf seems more bullish than hmon. But both still have this offshore Tuesday morning... So we have an eternity in gulf hurricane time....note Laura moved from Cuba to la in about 2 days...this will take an extra day to move less distance. Obviously conditions are different however...
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#190 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:06 pm

Steve wrote:HMON to 60 hours still moving NW at 978. HWRF weak out to 33 at 1006.


12z HWRF at 33 hours is at 988 mb.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#191 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:07 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:
Steve wrote:HMON to 60 hours still moving NW at 978. HWRF weak out to 33 at 1006.


12z HWRF at 33 hours is at 988 mb.


Yeah I fixed the post. It pulled up some random older run when I clicked on it. Looks like a serious threat developing on the HWRF.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#192 Postby bella_may » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:13 pm

Yikes. HWRF with the major hurricane
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#193 Postby Steve » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:13 pm

Yeah. HMON appears heading toward Mobile or Jackson County. 970’s though so maybe a 2?
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#194 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:14 pm

12z HWRF has a mid-range Cat 3 approaching Mississippi by 57 hours.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#195 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:15 pm

HWRF :double:

951mb 130kts 850mb winds at 57 hours off MS coast.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#196 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:19 pm

Not a good sign when we see this type of agreement in the HWRF/HMON this close to landfall. We saw that with Laura. Global models didn't have a clue.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#197 Postby NDG » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:23 pm

This would be the worst case scenario for Nola from the angle it would be coming from if the 12z HWRF was to be correct, way worst than when Katrina.

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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#198 Postby northjaxpro » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:24 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Not a good sign when we see this type of agreement in the HWRF/HMON this close to landfall. We saw that with Laura. Global models didn't have a clue.


No, they did not. The Globals have struggled most.of this hyperactive 2020 season. This has been the theme for sure.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#199 Postby MississippiWx » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:26 pm

NDG wrote:This would be the worst case scenario for Nola from the angle it would be coming from if the 12z HWRF was to be correct, way worst than when Katrina.

https://i.imgur.com/DdUCqe5.png


Much slower than Katrina as well.
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Re: ATL: NINETEEN - Models

#200 Postby kevin » Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:27 pm

Wow HWRF has a 950 mbar, 108 kts (124 mph, 200 kmh) major hurricane landfall in pretty much the worst location for New Orleans. Would be catastrophic if it verifies. And even if it (hopefully) doesn't verify, this goes to show just how careful we have to be with these situations during peak season. Just 24 hours ago this had a 10% chance of formation and now we're looking at models possibly indicating a major hurricane.
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