Tropical Wave in the Eastern Caribbean (Is Invest 98L)

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Tropical Wave in the Eastern Caribbean (Is Invest 98L)

#1 Postby Sanibel » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:54 am

The same La Nina/Southern Oscillation favorable phase that brought Zeta and Eta are expected to simmer up another cyclone in the coming week in the same spot in the Caribbean...

The latent conditions are once again unusually favorable...
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#2 Postby MetroMike » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:02 am

To back that up the 0z CMC has a TC coming from the South into Cuba around the 17th Nov.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#3 Postby aspen » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:49 am

The CMC is the most aggressive model with this system and has it start to form between 4-5 days out. The GFS has kept any vorticity in the Caribbean tangled up and stretched out with some north of the Antilles, and the Euro is as bearish as normal.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#4 Postby Sanibel » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:57 am

If it happens it will be a record season...
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#5 Postby Ryxn » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:09 am

Sanibel wrote:If it happens it will be a record season...


The area in the mid-Atlantic will likely be the record-breaking 29th tropical or subtropical storm.

This storm, if named, would make 2020 the first Atlantic Hurricane Season to feature 30 or more named storms.

Would be one of many many records already broken this year.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#6 Postby cainjamin » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:12 pm

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12z GFS run makes this yet another strong hurricane in the NW Caribbean.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#7 Postby crownweather » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:28 pm

Now being highlighted in the TWO.

A tropical wave is forecast to move over the central Caribbean Sea,
where an area of low pressure could form in a few days.
Environmental conditions may be conducive for at least gradual
development thereafter while the system moves slowly westward
through the end of the week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#8 Postby aspen » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:37 pm

crownweather wrote:Now being highlighted in the TWO.

A tropical wave is forecast to move over the central Caribbean Sea,
where an area of low pressure could form in a few days.
Environmental conditions may be conducive for at least gradual
development thereafter while the system moves slowly westward
through the end of the week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...20 percent.


Oh boy, here we go again. And I thought Eta was gonna be the last big Caribbean system...looks like I could be wrong.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#9 Postby kevin » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:18 pm

Here we go again. And I thought Eta would surely be this season's last major hurricane, but now I'm not so sure anymore. Of course it's important to remember that no system has formed yet, but with an MPI in the WCar that once again supports anything up to a cat 5 and considering how the season has been going so far, I have a bad feeling about this one. 12z GFS below, storm formation at 120 hours. Impacts CA/Yucatan as a cat 3/4 near the end of the run.

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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#10 Postby SFLcane » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:20 pm

Looks like it would head into the Yucatán.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#11 Postby kevin » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:23 pm

The GFS operational run isn't the only member that shows significant development. At least 8 members have a significant hurricane in the WCar around 220 - 240 hours. Models will change a lot over the next few days, but this is one to keep an eye on. Especially since both CMC and GFS develop it so if it's a phantom it's not a 'GFS only' phantom.

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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#12 Postby Spacecoast » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:53 pm

Here we go again.
I liked the 'old normal' better....
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#13 Postby CyclonicFury » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:45 pm

12z EPS is quite active!
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#14 Postby AutoPenalti » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:23 pm

I wonder where this would go.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#15 Postby aspen » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:23 pm

12z HWRF-P shows a weak TC developing by 114-126 hours out.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#16 Postby kevin » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:26 pm

Any final itensity estimate is premature at this stage, but I think there is pretty good model consensus that some system (or at least a low) will form around 120 hours from now. Atm we have GFS, CMC, HWRF. While the euro doesn't develop it, it also shows a low entering the WCar at 144 hours. Whatever this might become, it doesn't look like a phantom. Do we have a trackable source atm or does the source still have to form?
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#18 Postby cycloneye » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:09 pm

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A tropical wave is forecast to move over the central Caribbean Sea,
where an area of low pressure could form in a few days.
Environmental conditions are forecast to be conducive for
development as the system moves slowly westward through the end of
the week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent.
* Formation chance through 5 days...low...30 percent.
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#19 Postby underthwx » Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:53 pm

Well... 30 per cent at 7 pm... Seems more like September than November!
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Re: Tropical Wave Entering the eastern Caribbean

#20 Postby aspen » Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:06 pm

There could be a weak TC forming as early as Thursday/Friday in the central-ish Caribbean. From there, several possibilities emerge. Some models show it lingering around for a while, others show a straightforward track into Central America. Some of the runs that have it linger keep it weak for a while before bombing out, apparently due to some drier air nearby.
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